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Pastors Talk - A podcast by 9Marks

Episode 11: On Being “Called” to Ministry

Pastors Talk - A podcast by 9Marks

9Marks

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.8698 Ratings

🗓️ 25 April 2017

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Being “called” to ministry isn’t entirely personal, internal, and subjective. It involves both the individual and a church, an internal desire and external confirmation.

In this Pastors’ Talk episode, Jonathan asked Mark about common misconceptions of pastoral calling, how pastors can cultivate an environment where callings get tested, and the role of the church throughout.

SHOW NOTES:

– What does it mean that calling is both internal and external? (:30)

– Why would you slow a guy down who says, “I know I’m called to ministry”? (2:20)

– What do you say to someone who responds to your hesitation with, “But pastor, the Lord is leading me?” (5:00)

– What are some common errors churches make in discerning one’s sense of calling? (8:50)

– What’s a proper biblical understanding of calling in Scripture? How does it relate to vocation? (10:50)

– Who confirms a pastor? When you leave your church, are you still a pastor? (15:20)

– How does a man’s wife play into his calling as a pastor/elder? (16:40)

– How can a pastor cultivate a healthy environment to test young men and their calling to ministry? (19:05)

– Any general advice for those experiencing the call to ministry? (20:10)

– Is there a special calling for overseas missions? (23:50)

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, I am Jonathan Lehman.

0:03.1

And I'm here to tell you he, in fact, is Jonathan Lehman.

0:06.3

And with me is Mark Devere.

0:08.7

Yeah.

0:09.7

In the flesh.

0:11.0

Well, no, I guess not for you.

0:12.2

It's not.

0:13.3

In the digital, in something.

0:15.5

And welcome to this episode of Pastor's Talk, brought to you from Nine Marks.

0:18.6

Nine Marks exist to equip church leaders with a biblical vision and practical resources for building healthy churches. You can learn more at nine marks.org.

0:26.4

Mark, I want to talk to you about being called to the ministry, calling.

0:30.8

Okay.

0:31.6

Way, way back in 1998, you and I had lunch. I was working as a magazine editor at the time for a magazine that focused on international economy,

0:40.2

so very different than ministry.

0:41.9

And I said, you, Mark, I think I want to be a pastor.

0:44.6

And you said, Jonathan, the calling you the ministry is both internal and external.

0:50.2

What did you mean by that?

0:51.8

Well, first of all, if I did in fact say that, and exactly in the tone that you used,

0:59.3

you know well enough that I didn't make up those categories.

1:02.1

There was nothing unique that I had in saying that.

1:04.0

That's just the traditional Christian way.

1:06.2

Okay.

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