Pastors Talk - A podcast by 9Marks

There are seasons in a pastor's life when they could feel spiritually dry. In this episode, Mark and Jonathan, alongside 2 friends, think practically about what to do in those seasons.

Transcribed - Published: 22 April 2025

Jonathan talks to Samuel James about an article he wrote and together consider how maturity should look like inside of the church in light of the times we live in.

Transcribed - Published: 15 April 2025

Mark and Jonathan talk about the pastor's personal evangelism and consider how to carefully think about how we should relate to it. Related Resources: Evangelism by Mack Stiles How Do I Get Started in Evangelism? by Mack Stiles What If I'm Discouraged in My Evangelism? by Isaac Adams The Gospel and Personal Evangelism by Mark Dever

Transcribed - Published: 8 April 2025

Mark and Jonathan talk to the author of A Light on the Hill, which tells the history of a church 5 blocks from the US Capitol: Capitol Hill Baptist Church.

Transcribed - Published: 1 April 2025

Are there other qualifications for considering men as elders aside from the Bible's? In this episode Jonathan and Mark discuss what other things could be considered when nominating elders.

Transcribed - Published: 25 March 2025

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about the good desire some pastors have to write outside of church ministry and how to think about it. Subscribe to our new podcast, A Storm in the Desert, here: https://www.9marks.org/podcast/a-storm-in-the-desert/

Transcribed - Published: 18 March 2025

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk with the President of Poiema (a Spanish publisher) about the state of Christianity in Colombia.

Transcribed - Published: 11 March 2025

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Caleb Morell interviews Mark Dever about some general practices of his private prayer life. Subscribe to our new podcast, A Storm in the Desert.

Transcribed - Published: 4 March 2025

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman discuss a way to possibly run your church staff. Subscribe to our new podcast: A Storm in the Desert

Transcribed - Published: 25 February 2025

Introducing a new podcast from 9Marks—A Storm in the Desert. In 1972, at the base of a Swiss mountain, God saved a man named Mack Stiles. Two decades later, John Folmar “accepted Jesus as his personal Savior”; he doesn’t know even where he first heard that phrase. What happens in the next quarter-century is a testament to God’s commitment to use faithful, ordinary ministry to effect fruitful, extraordinary change. A Storm in the Desert tells this story. The first act in our story covers a lot of ground—from an icy crevice on a Swiss mountain to a below-freezing night capped off by the fiery Billy Graham. It involves a surprising conversion that eventually leads to a transatlantic flight on an empty plane. This is the story of Mack and Leeann. Subscribe to our new podcast, A Storm in the Desert.

Transcribed - Published: 21 February 2025

Can one belong before believing? In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Caleb Morell discuss the evangelistic power of exclusivity. Subscribe to our new podcast, A Storm in the Desert.

Transcribed - Published: 18 February 2025

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about service reviews. What is it? What do you talk about during service reviews? What if some feedback is too harsh? Mark Dever shares how the lead pastor can utilize this time to not only make the services better in the future, but also pastor and shepherd his staff and members. Subscribe to our new podcast, A Storm in the Desert, here: https://www.9marks.org/podcast/a-storm-in-the-desert/

Transcribed - Published: 11 February 2025

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman interviews Alex Duke and Alberto Jaquez about A Storm in the Desert, a new podcast series by 9Marks. Subscribe to our new podcast, A Storm in the Desert, here: https://www.9marks.org/podcast/a-storm-in-the-desert/

Transcribed - Published: 4 February 2025

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman interview Eric Yee, lead pastor of Harvest Mission Community Church of Jakarta, about Christianity in Indonesia.

Transcribed - Published: 17 December 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk again about the nuts and bolts of pastoral internship in a local church.

Transcribed - Published: 10 December 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman chat about how pastors can be both convictional and charitable.

Transcribed - Published: 3 December 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about pastoral internships

Transcribed - Published: 26 November 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about small groups and how they can help the church while it not being an essential part of what a church is.

Transcribed - Published: 19 November 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about how sound ecclesiology protects the gospel in a local church.

Transcribed - Published: 5 November 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about how to lead inductive bible studies.

Transcribed - Published: 29 October 2024

In this episode, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman interview Tiago Oliveira, a pastor of First Baptist Church of Lisbon, about the state of Christianity in Lisbon.

Transcribed - Published: 22 October 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman interview Matt Smethurst, a pastor of River City Baptist Church, on the importance of ecclesiology for a church plant.

Transcribed - Published: 8 October 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about our newest Church Matters: Seasons in a Pastor's Life.

Transcribed - Published: 1 October 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman interview Grant Borg, pastor of Church of the Risen King Jesus, about his spiritual journey and the state of Christianity in Australia.

Transcribed - Published: 24 September 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman interviews Mark Feather and Alex Duke about how to lead youth group with the whole church in mind. Related resources: – Our Main Goals for Youth Ministry – Youth Ministry and the Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self – LGBTQ+ Policies: What Do We Do about Youth Group?

Transcribed - Published: 17 September 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman interviews Dennis Boris, a pastor of Almaty Bible Church in Kazakhstan, about the state of Christianity and local churches.

Transcribed - Published: 10 September 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman interviews Aaron Menikoff, Greg Gilbert, Juan Sanchez, and Sebastian Traeger about a new network of like-minded churches: the ACME Fellowship. Check out ACMEfellowship.org for more information.

Transcribed - Published: 3 September 2024

Pastors Talk is back for season 9! In this episode, Jonathan Leeman interviews Phil Newton and Bob Johnson about pastoral transition and retirement. Related Resources: Articles: Preparing Pastors for Retirement by Brad Thayer, There’s No Such Thing as “Retiring” From Ministry by David Gough Journal: Seasons in a Pastor's Life

Transcribed - Published: 27 August 2024

Many pastors rightly desire to reach the next generation. But how should they? In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman interviews Kevin DeYoung on his new book, The (Not-So-Secret) Secret to Reaching the Next Generation

Transcribed - Published: 28 May 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman chat with Jeri Choi, Welton Bonner, and Bobby Jamieson about preparing to plant a church.

Transcribed - Published: 21 May 2024

What covenant is the new covenant replacing? If your answer is the old covenant, what do you mean? In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman chat with Bobby Jamieson about the implications of biblical covenants in a local church.

Transcribed - Published: 7 May 2024

What makes a good associate pastor? How can he complement a senior pastor’s weaknesses and extend his strengths? In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman interviews Deepak Reju, Bobby Jamieson, and Mark Feather about their experience as associate pastors.

Transcribed - Published: 30 April 2024

Pastors are called to lead their sheep, even the frustrated ones. In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about how pastors should care for frustrated sheep in the church.

Transcribed - Published: 23 April 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman interview Bobby Jamieson and Mark Feather about why pastors should care about studying the doctrine of the Trinity.

Transcribed - Published: 16 April 2024

What should you do when you disagree with your boss? Should you stay or leave? What are disagreeable philosophies of ministry? In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about what you should do when you disagree with your boss.

Transcribed - Published: 26 March 2024

Counseling Talk is here! In this episode, Jonathan Leeman interviews the hosts—Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell—about the what and why of Counseling Talk.

Transcribed - Published: 25 March 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman interview Connie Dever about children's ministry.

Transcribed - Published: 19 March 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman interview Connie Dever about children's ministry in a local church.

Transcribed - Published: 12 March 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman chat about seminary training.

Transcribed - Published: 5 March 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman chat with Cheston Pickard, a pastor in Louisville, about corporate applications in preaching.

Transcribed - Published: 27 February 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman chat with Jamie Dunlop about when a congregation should vote against its elders.

Transcribed - Published: 20 February 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about congregational singing in a local church. Why do Christians sing?What kinds of songs should we sing at church?What is congregational singing?What does Colossians 3:16 mean?How can I help my church to sing?

Transcribed - Published: 13 February 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman interact with Tim Keller's article, "Leadership and Church Size Dynamics" Tips for leading my church wellWhat program should I start in my church?How can I lead my church staff well?What kind of leadership skill should pastors have?What are some problems that small churches face?What are some problems that big churches face?

Transcribed - Published: 6 February 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about transcendence in worship services.

Transcribed - Published: 30 January 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about how we should interact with church disciplined members.

Transcribed - Published: 23 January 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about different criteria for discipline.

Transcribed - Published: 16 January 2024

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about the newest edition of Church Matters, Catholicity: Churches Partnering Together.

Transcribed - Published: 5 December 2023

If your church is centered on Christ alone, unity will sometimes involve building genuine friendships with Christians with whom you honestly don't share much in common. In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever interviews Jamie Dunlop about his new book, Love the Ones Who Drive You Crazy.

Transcribed - Published: 28 November 2023

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about the role and the importance of statements of faith.

Transcribed - Published: 21 November 2023

What's the history behind church covenants? Do they have more or less authority than the Bible? Is having a church covenant abusive? In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about church covenants.

Transcribed - Published: 14 November 2023