Hi, I'm Jonathan Lehman.

Yes, you are.

And with me is Mark Defer.

Yep.

And welcome to this episode of Nine Marks Pastors Talk.

Didn't we just do what it is?

We did, Tuesday.

Here we are two days later doing another one.

In order to build healthy churches, which is what we're all about.

Learn more at nine marks.org.

And today, Mark, we're going to veer from our normal practice of discussing general topics that we hope are perennially useful for pastors. Instead, we're

going to wait a little bit into the current Christian events. Current events.

Recently, a well-known preacher and pastor Francis Chan preached a message called Church Together.

And I'm going to start by playing about a three-minute clip of that sermon and focusing on communion and preaching.

Here it is.

Well, before you go to it, I just want to make it clear, this is not teaching that Jonathan and I are encouraging you to think it's true.

Correct.

This is simply something that was enunciated publicly and has gotten a lot of attention,

and we're wanting to make sure you hear it exactly, in his own words, for Jonathan

and I reflect critically upon it.

Right.

Thank you.

...