To me the gospel of Jesus Christ is about leaving something at the cross. What do we leave? What are we leaving at the cross? What are we leaving at the cross so that we can become one with Jesus on the cross?

Mm-hmm.

Welcome to at last she said it. We are Women of Faith discussing complicated things. I'm your solo host today, Cynthia Wynward. The title of today's episode is, what about racism? A

conversation with Tamu Smith. And the reason I'm solo today is because Tamu is a friend of mine who lives in the neighborhood.

So basically you're just going to hear a conversation between two friends.

She came over to my house one day, we sat in my office, and we had a chat for about an hour.

Let's jump in.

So do you remember when we did the little circle in Relief Society,

and it lasted like nine months. It started like at the beginning there,

it was right before Nelson became the Prophet and so it was like January, I could remember the exact

woman in our ward who was doing the lesson and she

brainstormed with all of us and said what would topics would you all want to hear

covered and I remember one of our friends in the class who has now moved. I think

she said she wanted to hear about like neurodivergence or different people who are

differently able. I said I wanted to hear about LGBTQ things and you said I want to have a

lesson about racism. And so by the time we left that day I remember the chalkboard it was filled and

I had such hope I was like this is going to be a good year. We're all going to sit in this circle like we're an

Alcoholics anonymous or we're going to share we're going to say hi my name is Cynthia.

Hi my name is Tamu and none of it happened.

Not one of those lessons happened.

And so I've always wondered what would that Relief Society

lesson on racism have looked like for that particular audience. So that's why I wanted you to come in today.

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