Episode 155: To the Children of the Mothers in Zion | A Conversation with Susie Augenstein

At Last She Said It

Cynthia Winward

Religion & Spirituality, Feminism, Motherhood, Ldswomen, Spirituality, Lds, Thechurchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints, Mormonwomen, Religion, Marriage, Mormon, Faith

5 • 900 Ratings

🗓️ 10 October 2023

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

For Latter-day Saint women in 1987, expectations outlined by the prophet were explicit: “Mothers in Zion,” he said, “Your God-given roles are so vital to your own exaltation and to the salvation and exaltation of your family.” In episode 155, Susan and Cynthia are joined by Susie Augenstein to break down the messaging mothers received then and have raised children in the shadows of since. It’s no wonder shifts in faith cause strain within families. This conversation is aimed at helping children of women who took President Benson’s words to heart understand why their mothers may sometimes fall into the trap of thinking they’re completely in charge of getting the whole family into heaven.

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0:00.0	And she was told that she even did more that you'd come back. And now she's thinking,
0:09.0	why does my kid not feel close to me? Why do I feel like I don't have a relationship?
0:14.5	But her messaging is also saying, pick up the phone
0:17.0	and ask your kid why they're not going to church.
0:19.1	Pick up the phone and tell them that their friends
0:21.3	are all fasting and praying for them. pick up the phone and ask them why
0:25.3	they're not reading their scriptures. And so they're getting all of this push of why they should
0:30.4	be in it and the mom thinks that she's doing the right thing.
0:32.8	She's going to keep them in.
0:35.0	And then at the end of the day their kids like, I can't do this.
0:39.4	I can't have this pressure.
0:41.5	But their mom is feeling pressure too.
0:44.0	Where is the payoff in that?
0:50.0	Hi, I'm Cynthia Wynward
0:52.0	and I'm Susan Hinkley.
0:54.0	And this is at last she said it.
0:56.0	We are Women of Faith discussing complicated things.
0:59.0	And the title of today's episode is
1:02.0	To the Children of the mothers in Zion.
1:06.0	Susan, this was your title and I loved it immediately as soon as you put it in our document.
1:11.8	So we're sticking with that. But also, sorry, the subtitle to our title is a conversation with
1:18.3	Susie Agnstein. So welcome, Susie. Good to be here. We are so glad to have you.
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