Episode 175 — The Abyss Stares Back

Exponent

Ben Thompson / James Allworth

Technology

4.6 • 832 Ratings

🗓️ 15 October 2019

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Ben and James discuss the NBA and Apple in China and the long-term implications of doing business with authoritarian governments. Links Ben Thompson: The China Cultural Clash — Stratechery r/HongKong: List Of Companies Under China’s Censorship Orders (So Far). Credit To U/Lebe — Reddit Sam Dastyari Quits As Labor Senator Over China Connections — The Guardian Rejected three times due to fear of Beijing, controversial book on China’s secret influence will finally be published — Business Insider Ethan Strauss: Can Steve Kerr and the NBA do better on China? — The Athletic Ben Thompson: Apple Pulls Hong Kong App, Tim … Continue reading Episode 175 — The Abyss Stares Back

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0:00.0	Hi, James.
0:01.1	Ben, how are you?
0:03.6	Recovering.
0:04.2	It's a Monday morning, not our usual day to record.
0:07.1	We actually recorded last week and then decided to sort of save it, which I think was probably a good choice.
0:12.0	But in the meantime, it was a holiday weekend here in Taiwan, a four-day weekend.
0:15.8	And I thought, you know, take it easy this year, not go anywhere, no trips, sort of stay home, have some friends over.
0:25.3	It turns out when you get old like me staying home having friends over as a recipe for feeling very exhausted on Monday morning. We'll just put it that way, drinking a lot of water.
0:30.1	But read it to that what you will. I'm glad it's Monday. I'm glad to be on the phone with you.
0:33.5	Yeah, so you need the week to recover from the weekend, huh? Basically, being old, man.
0:38.0	I can't handle the stuff anymore.
0:39.4	I'm telling you.
0:40.3	It's been Fleet Week here in San Francisco.
0:42.8	So if there's the sound of the heavens opening partway through the show, that's an F-35 swinging down saying hello to everybody on Exponent.
0:51.3	Yeah, and if we heard any Jets on my end, actually.
0:54.7	Oh, God.
0:55.5	I hope.
0:57.7	Yeah, let's hope they're on my end and not on yours.
1:02.5	Speaking of, in so many words, last week, very interesting week to say the least.
1:03.7	I wrote about it on strategically.
1:06.4	The issue with the China, they sort of start with the NBA.
1:07.8	Apple got involved.
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