Hi, James. Ben, how are you? I'm doing good. I'm doing good. How are you? Good. I just came from the gym and there are a whole bunch of NBA players from a team that I have no idea about training in the gym. And I was like, man, this is wasted on me. I wish Ben was here. But I thought you were a big basketball fan now. I'm so confused. You're just taking me on an emotional roller coaster here with you and your connection to basketball. There we are. So this week,

I wrote about nominally about Facebook. That was certain in the framing. There was a speech

that Mark Zuckerberg gave last week that we may get into a bit. But there was one line in that

speech that I thought was very interesting. It really made me sort of think a lot. And it sort of tied into the China stuff as well, which is very much been top of mind as things that I've been thinking about. And so I kind of wanted to catch that one line and sort of write about that. And so I wrote something this week that was sort of a little more expansive, a little more sort of looking both backwards and forwards, that, again,

is nominally about Facebook, but isn't really about Facebook at all.

It's about something almost even much bigger than Facebook, if that makes sense.

There's something bigger than Facebook?

Well, it's interesting, actually.

You know, Mark Zucker was in Congress today.

We were just sort of talking about this before we started the podcast. And it's so funny, like some of these questions

and back and forth, there's these fundamental tradeoffs that you get stuck in. It's like,

wait, guys, hold on. It's great. You're all trying to sort of score political points here.

But if you actually zoom out to a higher level, like, there's actually completely unmade points

that are actually bigger than the ones you're making. And it's like, you know,

you find these tradeoffs. Facebook has these tradeoffs that puts Zuckerberg in sort of an impossible

position to sort of answer the question, right? If you frame it just right. And it's like, yeah,

I just scored a political point. I got it got you. And it's like, okay, that's great. You got a got

you. Congratulations. But like you didn't really acknowledge or make clear what the tradeoff is. And that's, you know, almost sort of like misinformation in its own right.

But the worst part of it is, is not just that it's kind of like a little dishonest that you're not pointing out there's a real tradeoff here.

But we've actually zoom out and examine why is there a tradeoff here?

What entailed the creation of this tradeoff is like, oh, wait, there's actually a much bigger problem here that is

larger than Facebook. Go on. Well, let's get to it. That's the taste of the thing where we can end up

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