Episode 178: Jonathan Carey (Part 2)

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True Crime, Social Sciences, Science, Society & Culture

4.6 • 937 Ratings

🗓️ 31 July 2024

⏱️ 57 minutes

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In the last episode, I told you the story of Jonathan Carey, a non-verbal, autistic boy whose parents had no choice but to send him to a second residential program after he suffered abuse and torture at the first one he attended. At age 13, Jonathan was restrained and suffocated to death by Developmental Aide Edwin Tirado. In this episode, I’ll continue Jonathan’s story where I left off, and I’ll tell you about the Careys’ continued fight to change the system that tragically took their son from them.

This is the story of how a boy’s horrific, preventable death has triggered some—but not enough—changes in the way New York State cares for people with developmental disabilities.

This is part two of the mind-boggling story of Jonathan Carey.

Jonathan’s Law: http://jonathanslaw.com
Jonathan Carey Foundation on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/JonathanCareyFoundation
New York Times Abused and Used series: https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/interactive/nyregion/abused-and-used-series-page.html

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0:00.0	This podcast contains descriptions of violence against children and adult language and is not suitable for all audiences.
0:07.0	Listen or discretion is advised. Hi everyone and welcome to suffer the little children the
0:26.4	podcast giving voices back to the victims of child abuse murder and
0:30.3	their families. I'm your host Lane and this is episode 178 Jonathan Carey part 2.
0:38.0	In the last episode I told you the story of Jonathan Carey, a nonverbal autistic boy whose parents had no choice
0:46.4	but to send him to a second residential program after he suffered abuse and torture at the
0:51.2	first one he attended.
0:53.4	At age 13, Jonathan was restrained and suffocated to death by developmental aid Edwin Torado.
1:00.8	In this episode, I'll continue Jonathan's story where I left off and I'll tell you about the
1:05.5	Carrie's continued fight to change the system that tragically took their son from them.
1:11.1	This is the story of how a boy's horrific, preventable death has triggered some but not enough changes in the way New York State cares for people with developmental disabilities.
1:21.0	This is part two of the mind-boggling story of Jonathan Carey.
1:27.1	One thing I'd like to mention before jumping back into Jonathan's story, near the beginning
1:31.7	of the last episode when I was talking about Willowbrook School,
1:35.2	I mentioned how then Governor Hugh L. Carey appointed lawyer Clarence Sundram to help reform the
1:40.5	care system for the developmentally disabled and to help create the Commission on Quality of Care or CQC.
1:47.0	I talked about Mr. Sundram in glowing terms because that's how the media described his contribution to these changes.
1:54.0	Jonathan's father, Michael Carey, holds a very different opinion about Clarence Syndrome.
2:00.0	In short, Michael believes Mr. Sundram made a few positive changes, but no genuine broad systemic changes.
2:07.0	According to Michael, Mr. Sundram was instrumental in allowing the continued cover-up of abuse against the developmentally disabled in care homes.
2:16.0	I wanted to mention this because Mr. Sundram will make another appearance in this episode,
2:21.0	and I wanted to present not just the media's views on him but also those of Jonathan's family.
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