Hi, James. Ben, how are you? I'm well. I don't want to say how well because I took a couple days off last week and posted some photos on my Instagram stories and got a few responses for folks saying that I was rubbing it in their face, that I was able to sort of move freely around the country and they were not able to. So I have to stay on the download. It plays into your perpetual

guilt because those awesome looking photos then were followed up with like an apology about how

you weren't many to rub it in, which I enjoyed both, I must confess. Of course, you know, a couple

people were just joking about the photos. So I put the little bit about I apologize for writing

this in and then I got just a flood of responses to people laughing at that one.

So everyone loves Midwestern guilt.

Absolutely.

So we were talking offline.

And, you know, as Exponus sort of shifted a bit to a little less frequent, but maybe a little more sort of exploratory, you know, there's been so much that's been happening in the world, but, you know,

a topic that's been top of mind for us, obviously, has been China. And I know we were talking about

TikTok that's been in the news this week, but one of the reasons it's been the news is what's been

happening between China and India. And then we were kind of talking, well, actually, there's

lots of interesting things in India sort of itself. And I thought it might be useful to sort of take a step back today and, you know, not talk about whatever I wrote about

this week, but sort of big picture what's going on with these countries, with these social

networks, and how and if that should sort of impact what the U.S. should do. And I think just to

sort of caveat up front, I think we're both

coming at this with a fair bit of uncertainty, both because we're talking about other countries

that we are not citizens of, not part of those cultures, et cetera, but also it's not totally clear

what's the right thing to do either. Yeah, no, I agree. And I like this. I am most curious about like the news that's emerged

about TikTok and what to do about it in the United States. But I definitely feel this is a story

where the beginning is really up in the mountainous region between China and India.

Yeah. I mean, there has been this conflict that is frankly been going on for a very, very

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