Episode 191: What About Grief? | A Conversation with Pam Heggie

At Last She Said It

Cynthia Winward

Religion & Spirituality, Feminism, Motherhood, Ldswomen, Spirituality, Lds, Thechurchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints, Mormonwomen, Religion, Marriage, Mormon, Faith

5 • 900 Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2024

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

“My faith life really begins with death,” explains Pam Heggie. “Meaning, the real, genuine experiences of my life that molded me, shaped me and taught me what love and empathy really are, began with deaths. Four (so far) to be exact. Five if you count my own.” In Episode 191, Pam joins Susan and Cynthia to discuss lessons she’s learned at the intersection of grief and faith. In what ways might being a member of our church make grieving easier...or harder? Her experiences are packed with insights that can help all of us in our desire to mourn with and bring comfort to each other in times of grief.

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0:00.0	Getting to know my pain because I had to try to get rid of it. I had to try to get rid of it.
0:11.0	I had to figure out the sources of all these emotions and go back and find the root causes and yeah I discovered that my head always knew exactly how valuable I was.
0:22.9	Like I knew it.
0:24.2	We were definitely told, like I knew I was a child of God.
0:29.1	But I'd been leading a life trying to only show parts of me that I knew others would like and that I
0:35.5	knew others would be comfortable with.
0:39.4	Hi, I'm Susan Hinckley.
0:43.0	And I am Cynthia Wynward.
0:45.0	And this is at last she said it.
0:47.0	We are Women of Faith discussing complicated things.
0:50.0	And the title of today's episode is,
0:52.0	What about grief?
0:54.0	A conversation with Pam Heggy.
0:57.0	Hi, Pam.
0:58.0	Hi, Pam.
1:00.0	Welcome.
1:01.0	Pam, you're one of those women who came onto our radar through Substack Chat.
1:07.4	You know, Cynthia and I look at the Substack chat and sometimes we say things like, okay,
1:11.7	who is this Pam lady who says such amazing things?
1:15.6	Why haven't we had her on yet?
1:18.1	And so you're that Pam lady and we're delighted that you've agreed to have this conversation with us today.
1:24.4	But we didn't know when we asked you to come on the podcast.
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