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Episode 24: The Scapegoat (Part Two)

ALAB Series

All Lawyers Are Bad

Business

4.8869 Ratings

🗓️ 5 August 2021

⏱️ 90 minutes

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Summary

In the second and final part of their review of the U.S. government's unprecedented persecution of the Holy Land Foundation, Andy, Tarik and Tim -- again joined by podcast friend Rhiannon of fivefourpod.com -- analyze the two criminal trials that led to virtual life sentences for most of HLF's principals.

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0:00.0

I do I do want to include I don't think that what I'm about to say should end up at the end of the episode I just want to include it because I read it to Tark off the record before and I just wanted you guys to hear this too

0:10.6

Elizabeth Shapiro who eventually was like the director of the federal programs branch,

0:15.0

she handled the civil trial that we discussed in our last episode.

0:18.0

She also became a member of the prosecution team in this case.

0:21.0

She's in Justice's announcementsments of the Sentencing and everything.

0:25.4

She later wrote for a U.S. Attorney's Bulletin that I found that I was reading today a case study about the Holy Land Foundation case and about Hamas financing.

0:36.2

And I think her opening paragraph is such a perfect summary of how the government viewed this case.

0:41.8

So her opening paragraph is that in January 1993, a used car salesman from Chicago traveled to the Gaza Strip with over $300,000 in his briefcase.

0:51.0

Mohammed Sala, a naturalized U.S. citizen born in

0:54.8

Jerusalem claimed to be on a humanitarian mission. Shortly after his arrival he was

0:58.8

caught handing money to militants from the Islamic resistance movement known as

1:02.2

Hamas.

1:03.0

Right, so that's our opener.

1:05.0

And then she says, he was not, however, the biggest fundraiser operating for Hamas in the United States.

1:10.0

That honor belonged to the Holy Land Foundation for relief.

1:14.0

Right?

1:15.0

Jesus.

1:16.0

It's a total fucking smear.

1:18.0

Their activity has nothing to do with this guy's activity.

1:22.0

And her opener is to just try to connect it.

1:24.6

Yeah. Well the press release too you know that they put out I mean you know like

1:30.3

trumpeting the sentences where it's they're like he's the cousin of a

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