Hello, I'm Mark Devere, and this is Pastor's Talk.

Pastor's Talk is a conversation about the local church, how we try to live and work to the glory of God.

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Special guest today, pastor, author,

theologian, triathlete, Jamie Dunlop. Good to be here, Mark. Jamie, thank you for

given time to do this. Absolutely. I know you're busy and it's a busy time of year. You've just

been on sabbatical. So busy.

You're heading to East Asia. Seriously, to support missions, we appreciate that, brother.

Just real quick bio for people. You've been on this podcast before, but in case people didn't

remember that. Who are you?

So I've spent the last roughly 15 years as an associate pastor with Mark Deverec.

Now you said roughly. Have they been rough?

Sometimes. Generally, a delight. And I was here as a member for the 10 years before then.

I grew up in the Chicago area, had a career in business before I became a pastor.

You're also an author. I am.

You've written compelling community with me.

With you?

Now, how much of that did I really write?

People need to read the introduction explains the whole dirty story.

And that's gone really well.

We've been super pleased with how the Lord has used that book.

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