Hi, this is Jonathan Lehman.

This is Mark Devere.

Welcome to another episode of Nine Mark's Pastors Talk.

Nine Marks.

Pastors talk over each other.

Well, some more than others.

Some are polite.

You're very polite.

Yeah, thank you.

See, there you're just saying thank you learn more about us at nine

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that's an interesting question maybe maybe later they probably bought it knowing match smucker he bought

oh who's that voice or it's quality t-shirts no that's if it's praise factory. Okay. That's my dear wife Connie. She was here for part one,

and by popular demand, we brought her back for part two. That's right. Well, you lock the doors to the

study, so we're going on. Well, there it is. First conversation was more forced. This conversation

is more trees, some of the nitty-gritty

in helping pastors think about the children's ministry in their church and what they can do.

And I want to, let me jump straight into catechism. Okay. Do you encourage catechism?

Does that play a prominent role in praise factory curriculum? For those of you who aren't familiar, catechism? Does that play a prominent role in praise factory curriculum?

For those of you who aren't familiar, catechism is just a question-and-answer format.

It's where you have a question and then a short answer usually to be memorized.

So if you see me hesitating, it's because I feel two things about catechism.

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