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This episode features the remarkable actor, Mime, Doug Jones, who played the non-human character Saru in Star Trek

Discovery. He is a favorite actor of Guillermo del Toro, probably because he completely transforms

from one acting job to the next. His list of acting credits is impressive. Here's what I like

most about Doug. He is a polite gentleman coupled with a crazy

clown. His body is graceful and distinct, and he knows how to manipulate it. He can turn it

into something beautiful or menacing. He can play weird and odd or heroic, human or creature.

His imagination coordinates with his physicality beautifully in a manner most of us could only dream of.

He will charm you with his story of how it all came to be.

Take a listen.

So I want to just start like as if we were sitting down or meeting on a plane, you know what I mean, where you have these talks?

Yes.

Oh, I love airplane talks, actually.

Me too.

So what was it like growing up in Indiana?

Do you have siblings?

Talk about some stuff like that.

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