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You know, when I first spent time getting to know, Connor, I think it was on my first

Star Trek cruise, or was it? I'm not really sure,

but what I do remember was when I found out that he was a member of the theater company Circle

X. This was the company I partnered with when I built the Atwater Village Theater. How had we not

run into each other there? I mean, this was years. How did I not know him? So we first

talked about writers and the productions, new plays we had loved. And, you know, it was one of those

moments when I realized I meet actors in green rooms at these conventions. We say hi, and maybe we

talk a little bit about what they played on Star Trek. But there's so much more to these people that I never find out about

because I don't take the time to really have a conversation.

So that is specifically why I asked Connor to come and do my podcast.

And let me tell you, Connor had a childhood to die for.

Take a listen.

Hey, Connor.

Hi, Gates.

Hey, hey, how are you?

I'm well. How are you?

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