Welcome to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love, hosted by Richard Osler.

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podcast, that helps more people connect with the podcast. With that being said, our guest

on today's podcast, in our home on a beautiful Sunday afternoon and in the wintertime is my

friend Tom Christofferson. Welcome to the podcast, Tom. Thank you, Richard.

And we're going to talk about Tom's new book. The title of Tom's new book, it's the second book. It's

published by Desert Book. It's called A Better Heart, The Impact of Christ's Pure Love.

And I'm going to read just the bio on the back of it. This will embarrass Tom, so he may ask me to edit this out, but I'm going to read it anyway.

In case some of you are not familiar with Tom.

Tom Christofferson has spent his career in investment management and asset servicing living in the United States in Europe.

He has served as a director on corporate and

non-profit boards and as a volunteer with agencies combating homelessness and long-term unemployment.

Tom is an active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and serves as a gospel

doctrine teacher in his Mesa, Arizona Award.

He is the author of That We May Be Won, a Gay Mormon's Perspective on Faith and Family.

That book was, when was your first book published, Tom?

I think it was released in October of 2017.

And that book has been very helpful to our family and so many

Latter-day Saints around the world. And thank you for the courage to write that. To further,

I just wanted to read one review on Deserate book. This book is just out, but I love reading

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