I would like there to be a frankly a more definitive sign that what the Democratic Party needs to do if it wants to win.

I mean obviously those are on our goals, but to the extent that a residual consequence of this is that the Democratic Party does feel like it needs to move

left and court these votes. But it should be yes you need to move left to win not keep

courting Dick Cheney and former Bush staffers and things like that.

Yeah, so in 2016 sending a message to Hillary Clinton and Democrats that you

lost because you forsake the working class that is the message we wanted to send and

that's the kind that's it's exactly the same logic that we don't believe that

the Democratic Party is the answer in fact it is that this is the moment to abandon the Democratic Party is the answer. In fact, this is the moment to abandon the Democratic Party forever.

This is not, this not strategy is not working, it's a failed strategy for working-class people

and the anti-war movement to put out any of our faith in them.

But the point is that part of the strategy to build the anti-war movement that is actually

powerful enough to end the war, US military funding and the occupation.

I mean this we are talking about huge goals here.

Part of the starting point is to send a definitive message, as you said, a definitive message to the Democratic Party

that this happened, you lost Michigan because you are a purveyor of genocide.

It's as simple as that.

There's nothing more complicated than that.

As long as you are a purveyor of genocide,

this is the message that we will send you.

That's crucial. And that's why I'm urging everybody that it's not you do whatever you want.

No, let's use Jill Stein's campaign as that United platform to send that message because it is so crucial. We're not going to get this moment again it's a

crucial moment. Yeah and to be clear I know that I sound despondent from time to time but my concern is only like we just had this

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