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Episode 410 Promo - Kamala vs. The Black Left (w/ Dr. Charisse Burden-Stelly)

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4.52.6K Ratings

🗓️ 30 September 2024

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Wayne University scholar Dr. Charisse Burden-Stelly -- better known as Dr. CBS -- returns to Bad Faith two years after offering up her predictions on what at 2024 Kamala run would look like. She offers her perspective on Kamala endorsements from the radical Black left, Jill Stein and Butch Ware's viral performance on The Breakfast Club, Ta-Nehisi Coates' return to political writing in the form of an anti-Zionist cover story for New York Magazine, and more. Dr. CBS & Brie end the episode in an extended debate about the theory of change the left should adopt in the wake of the Squad's "inside strategy" failing.

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Produced by Armand Aviram.

Theme by Nick Thorburn (@nickfromislands).

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0:00.0

So I was at a conference this past week called through the portal where Angela Davis was in conversation with Cori Bush.

0:09.0

And she sort of, so Barbara Ranzby was a moderator and sort of asked her about this, you know, people who are

0:16.3

who are critiquing her for this, right? And she's like, I never, so because this started with

0:20.9

Hillary, this started with Barack Obama, right?

0:23.7

She endorsed Barack Obama.

0:25.9

She says she never endorsed Hillary Clinton

0:28.2

and she didn't endorse Kamala.

0:30.4

What she did, although I remember very vividly holding up a newspaper and

0:36.9

squealing with glee at at least one of these candidates but fine. But what she

0:42.3

said was that she didn't endorse these people,

0:44.4

but if electoral politics is a strategy

0:47.0

that one uses, that we are in a moment

0:50.9

where an outright fascist,

0:53.6

and she wouldn't even say his name by the way,

0:55.1

she would not say Trump, but an outright fascist

0:58.0

is the other candidate,

1:00.0

then we have a sort of responsibility to vote for the, I guess, fascist adjacent.

1:06.8

She didn't use that terminology, but that's how I would characterize it, right?

1:09.9

The sort of gateway to fascism.

1:12.9

And so that was her argument.

1:15.1

Whatever, if that's your strategy, fine.

1:17.7

But I think that my problem with what she said

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