The So, All right, I'm so glad to have on Bad Faith podcast somehow for the first time,

Eshna Krishnaswami. You might know her from historically her sub-stack,

which you should definitely check out.

Welcome to the podcast, Esha. Thank you. How are you doing? I'm doing very well. We were just going through the history of when we actually met in person for the first time when I was traveling on the burning campaign and we met in South Carolina and

we haven't seen each other since then but I've been such a huge fan of yours I think I recently

retweeted a great interview that you had done on was it macro and cheese

Oh yeah it was a few months ago about Russia and the breakup of the Soviet Union in the whole history.

It was

looking at some of your tweets and some of the broader speculation that's been going on

about the various methods that may or may not be deployed at the moment to sort of disrupt the left.

I mean, you and I both are very familiar with the stereotype of the left and our infighting and our inability to make progress because of sort of

of self-imposed rules. We recently got into this a little bit with Vincent Bevens when he was on the show and

we were talking about different theories of how

leftist socials organizations should be organized and whether leaderlessness is

ultimately a choice that frustrates left movements as opposed to advances them. But also it feels like in this

particular moment, partly because of the nature of social media, probably because of the

nature of what feels like an appetite for some level of conspiracy theory,

especially on the left, sorry, especially on the right, I should say,

the rise of R.F.K. Jr.

in the interest of what happened to his family members,

COVID and the interest in whether Labley theory is real

and how this pandemic started,

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