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Even though the FBI plays a role in disappearance investigations in the United States,

really we haven't talked about the Bureau much over the past eight years. Well today you get to hear from one of their own

including some of the well-known cases she has consulted on and hey, she is also a podcaster.

I'm at Dunsel and this is unfound. But first, Unfound News.

If you haven't heard already, I'm in Pennsylvania, and coincidentally I'm seated less than a mile

from where the attempted assassination of Donald Trump occurred. Yes, this is where my father lives. I made a video of the area that you can now find on

Unfound's YouTube channel. Next, the largest project in Unfound's history has begun.

In fact, if I may, this is not only the largest project in the podcast's history,

it is the single largest disappearance analysis project that has ever been done.

When it is done, you will get to see it. Finally, the live show is being moved to Tuesday, July 23rd, for one week and one week only.

Why? Because I'm going to see a concert on July 22nd. Who is playing?

Winger. Yes, really. A note before my talk with Julia starts. This is a long interview, so I've broken it up into separate episodes at least the non-Y youtube versions

so none of you would become too intimidated about listening to the whole thing.

But that's the thing. Please listen to all of it. There is a lot to be

learned about how the FBI actually goes about its business. In contrast to how the Bureau is perceived in true crime or how Hollywood portrays it.

I'm so happy to have one this episode of Unfound, Retired FBI profiler and podcast host Julia Cowley.

Julia, welcome to Unfound.

Hello, Ed, thank you for having me.

And before we get started, I have to do a shout out to a mutual friend of ours, Caroline Lowe,

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