they chose to lose an election rather than upset their donors by breaking with genocide.

If Kamala Harris had said, I do not support this policy, this needs to be re-evaluated,

this things need to go in a different direction, which is what her voters overwhelmingly wanted to hear

and might have given people a feeling that she has

some aota of independence, independent thinking, boldness, courage.

Because I think that's what people like about Trump.

Yeah. The The All right, it's my pleasure to have returning to bad faith podcast, Sarah Lee Whitson.

She's an American lawyer and executive director of Democracy for the Arab World Now or Dawn.

And she was also previously the director

of the Middle East and North Africa Division of Human Rights Watch. Welcome back to the podcast.

Thanks for having me. Great to be back. Yeah, it's great to have you. I really enjoyed talking to

you last time. And it occurred to me that it's been a while since we did an update on what's been going on in Gaza.

And frankly, it's been a lot of news.

Obviously, ever since Trump came into office, there has been new.

I was going to say renewed.

But in all honesty, it's new focus from the mainstream liberal media on the genocide.

Not that they're necessarily calling it that, but the ongoing tragedy in Gaza, the new interest is because I would argue it is now attributable to

the Trump administration. And of course, there has been this genuflecting effort to use the

dire circumstances of Palestinians as a cudgel against the left and anybody who had a

principled stance against supporting Joe Biden and the Biden Harris administration for

enabling the genocide in the first instance. That being said, there have been continued

developments, obviously, following the

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