Episode 564: Fred & Rose West (Part 1)

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True Crime, Comedy, Exhibit C

4.5 • 95.3K Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2024

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

In this four part series, we dive into the horrific crimes of Fred & Rose West. We begin by exploring Fred's formative years which laid a foundation for his callousness and depraved appetites.

Thank you to the wondrous Dave White of Bring Me the Axe Podcast for Research!

References

Amis, Martin. 2000. When darkness met light. May 11. Accessed March 21, 2024. https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2000/may/11/features11.g2.

BBC News. 1998. Fred West 'admitted killing waitress'. March 25. Accessed March 19, 2024. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/69928.stm.

—. 2001. How many more did Fred West kill? September 27. Accessed March 19, 2024. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1567038.stm.

—. 2021. The 12 victims of Fred and Rosemary West. May 27. Accessed March 18, 2024. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-57182844.

Bennett, Will. 1995. Step-daughter Charmaine was first to die. November 22. Accessed March 19, 2024. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/stepdaughter-charmaine-was-first-to-die-1583071.html.

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—. 1974. "Student missing for six days may return ton university-police." Birmingham Post, January 2: 2.

—. 1968. "Yard detectives join search for Gloucester girl." Birmingham Post, January 9: 1.

Campbell, Duncan. 1995. "How a string of girls came to die in depraved and appalling circumstances." The Guardian, October 7.

Duce, Richard. 1995. "West's suicide avenged killings, QC tells jurors." The Times, November 16.

Duce, Richard, and Bill Frost. 1995. "Court told of depravity at 25 Cromwell Street." The Times, October 7: 4.

Evening Post. 1968. "Helicopter joins hunt for Mary." Evening Post, January 8: 1.

Evening Standard. 1974. "Have you spotted this girl?" Evening Standard, July 4: 18.

Frost, Bill. 1995. "Cromwell Street murders case man is dead." The Times, Janaury 2.

Frost, Bill, and Richard Duce. 1995. "I'm being made a scapegoat, says West." The Times, November 2.

—. 1995. "No place for sentiment, West jurors are told." The Times, October 4.

—. 1995. "West: I fell under Fred's spell." The Times, October 31.

Gloucester Echo. 1994. "Did builder know Mary?" Gloucester Echo, March 8: 3.

—. 1994. "Graden bodies: Who were they?" Gloucester Echo, March 2: 1.

Gloucestershire Echo. 1995. "From angelic child to coldest of killers." Gloucestershire Echo 5.

—. 1995. "Fred West found dead." Gloucestershire Echo, January 2: 1.

—. 1995. "I'll see you in court, Rose." Gloucestershire Echo, January 4: 1.

Knight, Adam. 2014. Fred West's brother denies incest claims. November 7. Accessed March 17, 2024. https://www.herefordtimes.com/news/11587578.fred-wests-brother-denies-incest-claims/.

Lee, Adrian, Tim Jones, and Damian Whitworth. 1996. "Fred West's brother hangs himself." The Times, November 29.

Ovington, Paul. 1974. "Hunt steps up as fear grows for Lucy, 21." Western Daily Press and Times, January 4: 1.

Sounes, Howard. 1995. Fred & Rose: The Full Story of Fred and Rose West and the Gloucester House of Horrors. New York, NY: Open Road Media.

United Press International. 1995. "British jury convicts West of 10 murders." UPI Archive, November 22.

West, Mae, and Neil McKay. 2018. Love as Always, Mum: The True and Terrible Story of Surviving a Childhood with Fred and Rose West. London, UK: Seven Dials Press.

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0:07.9	You're listening to a morbid network podcast.
0:25.0	Hey, weos, I'm Elena. I am Ash, and this is morbid. Party.
0:30.0	Party. A party. Not really.
0:32.0	This is not going to be a party today. We're starting a series that a lot of you have asked for for a long, long time.
0:39.0	A long time. And I've been avoiding it just simply because this is a tough one. It's going to be a tough one. It's going to be a tough one for all of us.
0:50.0	It's going to be a long, long tough one. It is. It's going to be a long, long tough one.
0:53.4	It is.
0:54.0	It's going to be a little long, it's going to be tough.
0:56.8	And we are covering Fred and Rosemary West.
1:00.3	Oh, goodness.
1:02.4	We're going to break this up because there's a lot to this story. Fair warning right off the bat. So many triggers. I mean, all of them triggers this is a fucking terrible story they are
1:16.1	fucking terrible people and it's a tragedy all the way around. So just you know just know that.
1:27.0	Buffalo, Buttercup.
1:28.5	But I need to start out by recommending a book that was written by the West's daughter, Anne-Marie West.
1:37.0	And it's called Out of the Shadows.
1:40.0	She endured things that no one should ever even have to think of in the darkest recesses of their minds.
1:47.0	And I urge you to get her book and read her story from her point of view.
1:51.0	Yeah, I feel like that's so important. Definitely go find it. We can obviously
1:55.8	tell it from research and news reports and other books, but she lived it. So definitely go read your book.
2:02.1	Definitely. But let's get into this because I don't even have it in me to
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