Episode 565: Fred & Rose West (Part 2)

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True Crime, Comedy, Exhibit C

4.5 • 95.3K Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2024

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Part two delves into Fred's life after he met Rose, exploring the origins of the affair leading to their marriage and the beginning of the sadistic crimes that would horrify the world at large.

Thank you to the wondrous Dave White of Bring Me the Axe Podcast for Research!

References

Amis, Martin. 2000. When darkness met light. May 11. Accessed March 21, 2024. https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2000/may/11/features11.g2.

BBC News. 1998. Fred West 'admitted killing waitress'. March 25. Accessed March 19, 2024. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/69928.stm.

—. 2001. How many more did Fred West kill? September 27. Accessed March 19, 2024. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1567038.stm.

—. 2021. The 12 victims of Fred and Rosemary West. May 27. Accessed March 18, 2024. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-57182844.

Bennett, Will. 1995. Step-daughter Charmaine was first to die. November 22. Accessed March 19, 2024. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/stepdaughter-charmaine-was-first-to-die-1583071.html.

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—. 1974. "Student missing for six days may return ton university-police." Birmingham Post, January 2: 2.

—. 1968. "Yard detectives join search for Gloucester girl." Birmingham Post, January 9: 1.

Campbell, Duncan. 1995. "How a string of girls came to die in depraved and appalling circumstances." The Guardian, October 7.

Duce, Richard. 1995. "West's suicide avenged killings, QC tells jurors." The Times, November 16.

Duce, Richard, and Bill Frost. 1995. "Court told of depravity at 25 Cromwell Street." The Times, October 7: 4.

Evening Post. 1968. "Helicopter joins hunt for Mary." Evening Post, January 8: 1.

Evening Standard. 1974. "Have you spotted this girl?" Evening Standard, July 4: 18.

Frost, Bill. 1995. "Cromwell Street murders case man is dead." The Times, Janaury 2.

Frost, Bill, and Richard Duce. 1995. "I'm being made a scapegoat, says West." The Times, November 2.

—. 1995. "No place for sentiment, West jurors are told." The Times, October 4.

—. 1995. "West: I fell under Fred's spell." The Times, October 31.

Gloucester Echo. 1994. "Did builder know Mary?" Gloucester Echo, March 8: 3.

—. 1994. "Graden bodies: Who were they?" Gloucester Echo, March 2: 1.

Gloucestershire Echo. 1995. "From angelic child to coldest of killers." Gloucestershire Echo 5.

—. 1995. "Fred West found dead." Gloucestershire Echo, January 2: 1.

—. 1995. "I'll see you in court, Rose." Gloucestershire Echo, January 4: 1.

Knight, Adam. 2014. Fred West's brother denies incest claims. November 7. Accessed March 17, 2024. https://www.herefordtimes.com/news/11587578.fred-wests-brother-denies-incest-claims/.

Lee, Adrian, Tim Jones, and Damian Whitworth. 1996. "Fred West's brother hangs himself." The Times, November 29.

Ovington, Paul. 1974. "Hunt steps up as fear grows for Lucy, 21." Western Daily Press and Times, January 4: 1.

Sounes, Howard. 1995. Fred & Rose: The Full Story of Fred and Rose West and the Gloucester House of Horrors. New York, NY: Open Road Media.

United Press International. 1995. "British jury convicts West of 10 murders." UPI Archive, November 22.

West, Mae, and Neil McKay. 2018. Love as Always, Mum: The True and Terrible Story of Surviving a Childhood with Fred and Rose West. London, UK: Seven Dials Press.

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0:00.0	Wundery Plus subscribers can listen to morbid early and add free.
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0:07.0	You're listening to a morbid network podcast.
0:10.6	Hey, weirdos, I'm Ash.
0:15.0	And I'm Elena.
0:17.0	And this is Morbid. This is more bed and we are in part two of Fred and Rosemary West.
0:39.0	Oh God, the fact that we're only on part two right now?
0:42.0	Yeah. Just like all of the information in part one like all of the
0:46.0	deranged diabolical information. Yeah. And that's just one part y'all. This is going to get so much worse. One part y'all this is going to get so much worse one part y'all these are horrible people these are very bad like these are very bad and I know I've said I said that in part one
1:01.2	but it can't be stressed enough how bad this is and again another
1:05.2	blanket trigger warning for horrific sexual abuse and assaults and just
1:11.2	really terrible things they They're terrible. This is terrible. I'm
1:17.4	questioning myself for deciding to agree to do this. But we're here.
1:23.0	It takes an effect on your psyche.
1:24.0	It really does.
1:25.0	I'm not like it, like I've said this before about other cases,
1:28.0	but I think this one is akin to the Myra Hindley and Ian Brady one that like really took a little bit of a
1:36.7	toll this one's taken a toll and so I will be very glad when we wrap it up.
1:43.2	But it's a story that needs to be told because it's horrific.
1:48.2	And these people, a lot of their victims,
1:52.0	not all of them, but a lot of them came from really dysfunctional
1:56.8	trauma in their lives to begin with.
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