My friends Sarah and Jeff Case (mixed-orientation marriage, active LDS, two queer kids) join us to update listeners on their story, share principles to keep families together, and the new Gather for Youth (ages 14-18) at the Gather Conference (Sept 13-14th, 2024). Sarah (middle school teacher, straight) and Jeff (clinical psychologist, gay) talk about a “process versus outcome” perspective to raising kids, focusing on preserving the relationship, and finding peace when children step away from the Church. Sarah and Jeff also talk about the new Gather for Youth (purpose, focus, who is invited, scope of activities, etc) that is for queer youth (and their friends/allies) to help them feel loved, supported and hopeful. I was so moved listening to Sarah and Jeff (a beautiful family love story) and hearing about Gather for Youth (so excited for this group)—and all the many insights to help better support queer Latter-day Saints and their families as we work to better create Zion. Thank you, Sarah and Jeff, for your needed work in our community—you two are two of my heroes! You are doing so much good. I encourage everyone to listen to your story and to learn more about Gather for Youth. Links: Gather 2024 Registration: gatherconference.regfox.com/2024-gather-conference More about Gather for Youth: liftandlove.org/gatheryouth Jeff’s 2023 Gather Presentation: www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XSbxq1iFvs Jeff Case e-mail: [email protected] Sarah Case e-mail: [email protected] Gather Instagram: @gatherconf Jeff Case Prior Podcast: soundcloud.com/user-818501778/episode-86-dr-jeff-case-phd-in-clinical-psychology-from-byu-active-lds-understanding-suicide Jeff and Sarah Case Prior Podcast: soundcloud.com/user-818501778/episode-92-jeff-and-sarah-case-married-parents-of-three-active-lds-mixed-orientation-marriage