Episode 773: Guillermo Lemus, Faith Crisis/Expansion, Staying LDS

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 839 Ratings

🗓️ 27 August 2024

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

My friend Guillermo Lemus (age 30, BYU grad student, BYU-Idaho grad, married, RM) joins us to share his multi-year journey to process the complicated aspects of our Church and find a way to remain a member of the Church. In sharing his story, Guillermo normalizes a faith crisis/expansion (including all the pain one feels on this road) and what he (and other did) to help/support him. Guillermo uses the model of the “Garden/Fall/Redemption” to frame up a faith expansion in a positive and on-shaming way. Guillermo shares a beautiful poem (“Lord of the 4th Watch—see show notes) and also talks about self-love. If you are in faith expansion and want to find a way to authentically stay in the Church, Guillermo story will help you (it helps me!). And if you are looking to better support our good members walking this road, Guillermo story/insights will help you better support others. Thank you, Guillermo, for being on the podcast. You represent everything good about our Church and world. You are a good man and friend. Your story will help so many. Links: Guillermo’s IG: @glemoose and @edens_exodus Twitter: @GELemus13 Richard Ostler’s chapter 10 (from his book Listen, Learn and Love: Improving Latter-day Saint Culture) on Ministering to Those With Questions: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/tvlalac35zozq8625hc4r/Chapter-10-Ministering-To-Those-With-Questions.-Listen-Learn-and-Love-Improving-Latter-day-Saint-Culture.pdf?rlkey=e2fdmkkwwa3pu80n33ighncix&dl=0

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0:00.0	Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love, hosted by Richard Osler.
0:09.6	This podcast today is with a friend that I've had for the last several years, and he's going
0:16.6	to talk about his, the title of his outline is My Faith Crisis and Expansion. And he has turned
0:23.8	30 years old and he's going to just talk about all the things he's worked through. As a committed
0:29.3	Latter-day Saint, he's tried to reconcile historical issues, current issues, people that have
0:35.8	supported him along the way and just his decision to stay in the church.
0:40.7	And this podcast might be helpful for you if you're also kind of a goal to stay in the church,
0:45.8	but aware of all the complicated issues.
0:48.5	And if you're a family member or a local leader, I think Guillermo's podcast will give you
0:52.9	insights into better support really
0:55.1	good people with honest questions in our church. So my guest is Guillermo Lemos. Welcome to the podcast,
1:01.7	Guillermo. Hi, Richard. It's a pleasure being here with you today. Thank you for having me.
1:08.7	I've been listening to your podcast for the last several years, and it's actually
1:14.0	really helped me figure things out and understand that there's a lot more people like
1:20.3	myself out there struggling as well with very complex issues within the church, within
1:25.1	the complexity of our culture too.
1:28.5	So thank you again.
1:35.8	And I'm just glad to have you in the podcast. I reached out to Guillermo and just felt impressed that, you know, most of my guests reach out to me, but sometimes I reach out to
1:40.1	somebody and say, would you like to share your story on the podcast? And Guillermo's really prepared.
1:46.4	He's got an outline here and just wants to do a really good job.
1:50.3	But as background, he'll introduce himself, but I'll give you a little background.
1:53.9	As I mentioned, Guillermo just turned 30.
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