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Episode 775: Rylee, Transgender Latter-day Saint, Brave Story

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8839 Ratings

🗓️ 5 September 2024

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

My friend Rylee (he/they) joins us to share their story. Rylee (married father of 7, mid-40’s. RM, believing/active LDS, IT professional) talks about their feelings of gender dysphoria from their earliest memories. Rylee (who is doing the podcast to give others hope walking this road) talks about their journey of self-discovery, navigating faith and identity, lessons learned and hopes for the future. Rylee talks about things they are doing within the new transgender handbook policies to stay temple-worthy and to fully participate in the Church. At the same time, Rylee talks about the sacrifice to make this possible and also how the handbook can cause transgender members to feel like second class citizens. Rylee and I talk about how gender dysphoria is a recognized/established health issue with guidelines to feel better—and how staying fully active in the church takes some of those guidelines off the table. Rylee also talks about how his gender dysphoria is the bottom of the iceberg—but was presenting with depression and anxiety (top of the iceberg stuff that is easier to see) and how he needed to recognize/address gender dysphoria to improve his mental health. Rylee talks about his work to take shame out of his life for never fitting into the cultural expectations for a man—and his firm testimony that he is created as intended by our Heavenly Parents and this “is a beautiful part of who I am” that doesn’t need fixing in the resurrection. If you have feelings of gender dysphoria (or looking to better support transgender/non-binary Latter-day Saint), please listen to Rylee and their deeply insightful and spiritual journey. Thank you, Rylee, for your courage to be on the podcast. I was so moved listening to your story. You are so brave. We need good people like you in our Church and society. You help us to expand the boarders of Zion so more feel welcome, needed, and belonging. Links: Rylee’s email: [email protected]

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0:00.0

Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love, hosted by Richard Osler.

0:09.9

My guest on today's podcast is a really wonderful Lauderday Saint, working with gendered dysphoria.

0:17.1

Welcome to the podcast, Riley.

0:19.9

Thank you. It's a pleasure to be here.

0:21.6

As you know, listeners, I try to give a little bio information and then turn it over to my guest.

0:27.6

This guest is very prepared.

0:29.6

And this is the first podcast I recorded with somebody who's transgender, working with gender dysphoria since the handbook changes.

0:40.4

And so that may come up in this podcast.

0:43.6

Riley is in his mid-40s.

0:46.0

He lives in Arizona.

0:49.2

He and his pronouns are he, they.

0:53.4

And Riley may talk more about that.

0:56.7

Riley is an IT professional.

0:58.7

He holds a temple rec him and he's married and there's seven kids in the family.

1:03.2

As I think I mentioned at the beginning, he is a biological male and has gender dysphoria. He's going to talk about how that's been

1:14.1

part of his journey his whole life. He's doing his very best he can to manage that. Served

1:21.0

a mission on the East Coast, Spanish speaking. He's out to his wife, obviously. She's aware he is

1:26.7

doing this podcast. And as I read Riley's

1:30.7

outline, this is just a labor of love to try to bring more understanding to this space for

1:37.9

local leaders, families that have people that are transgender. And also for other transgender Latter-day Saints,

1:46.5

there's very few stories in this space. And Riley's been on this road a long time. I spent

1:53.0

a sense someone who's very spiritually mature and just may be able to help somebody navigating

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