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Episode 791: Oliver Black, Transgender Man, Mid-20’s, Supporting Transgender Members

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8839 Ratings

🗓️ 18 November 2024

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

My friend Oliver Black (RM, UVU student, grew up in Utah County) joins us to share his story with gender dysphoria and how we can help trans/non-binary Latter-day Saints feel more welcome. Oliver delayed his transition so he could serve a mission (Montana—great experience—wanted to serve to help others), but has now been fully transitioned for over three years. He talks about the positive experiences in his mission and the role of spiritual promptings when coming out while in the field. Oliver then talks about the love/support he's received from his parents and local wards—and the spiritual peace he feels. He also discusses the difficult road transgender Latter-day Saints walk and what we can do to better support them. In this regard, Oliver has written “7 Ways Local Church Leaders Can Make Church Safe for Transgender Members” (link in show notes). This labor of love suggests ways (given the new handbook changes in Aug 2024) to help transgender members feel more safe, accepted, loved, and needed. He answers tender questions I felt impressed to ask him, giving answers that were deeply insightful and moving. Thank you, Oliver, for being on the podcast and helping us better understand that our Heavenly Parents' love all Their children. You are a good man with immense emotional/spiritual/intellectual maturity—gifts that you are using to help us create Zion and bless others. Honored to have you on the podcast. Links: Oliver’s “7 Ways Local Church Leaders Can Make Church Safe for Transgender Members” document: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/j2r794h1v7zoodghc9h8x/Supporting-Trans-Members-Oliver-Black-Nov-2024.pdf?rlkey=exlksuqeqbux4hxwk9xi1bgwx&dl=0 Oliver’s editing website/writing portfolio: https://oliveraeblack.wixsite.com/about

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0:00.0

Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love hosted by Richard Osler.

0:10.4

As I prepare for these episodes, often my guests will send me an outline.

0:15.2

That's sort of the general suggestion I give people in the podcast.

0:20.2

And I often, since we do so many podcasts, don't get to that outline until maybe even

0:25.3

an hour before we record.

0:26.8

And as I was reading my podcast guest is Oliver Black, a transgender, Latter-day

0:31.9

Saint.

0:32.3

I just was so moved by his courage.

0:36.5

And I just felt like it was such an honor to have somebody like Oliver

0:40.3

on the podcast.

0:41.3

And so, you know, I'm honored to be in this space.

0:46.3

When I get tired or feel a little worn out or even there's some tension set in my way

0:51.3

for providing this platform, I'm just, the real heroes are the LGBTQ Latter-day Saints that have the courage to share

0:59.4

their story and also do some of the things that Oliver has done.

1:03.4

So welcome to the podcast, Oliver Black.

1:06.9

Absolutely a pleasure to be here.

1:08.4

Thank you so much.

1:09.9

Let me give you a little bio about Oliver, his pronouns, or he, him. He's a transgender man.

1:15.7

He grew up outside of Seattle for a little bit and then spent 15 years in Utah County.

1:22.3

He decided not to transition. He'll talk about that. He recognized he was queer before his mission,

1:28.1

but decided to hold off on transitioning and served a mission, partly a proselyting mission in

1:35.2

Montana, partly a service missionary. In Springville, and he may give us more detail on that.

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