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Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Episode 814: Marley Orton, LDS Mother of Non-Binary Child

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 839 Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

My friend Marley Orton (married mother of three, mid-50s, Utah County, real estate broker/hair stylist, RM) joins us to share her story of love and acceptance of her non-binary child CC. Marley starts with the pregnancy of this child knowing it was twins and having that confirmed via ultrasound. However, that changed with “Vanishing Twin Syndrome” where she ended up with one child. Marley talks about CC being sensitive, focused on those left out, sweet and a great sibling to their younger brother Zac. Marley talks about CC coming out as pansexual at age 16 and the body dysphoria they felt and feeling ostracized—especially at church. Marley talks about—with the help of a great therapist—CC understanding the identity that resonated with them: non-binary—and how CC's mental health and hope for the future improved with the process of transitioning. Marley talks about discovering “Chimera Twin Syndrome” and how this could bring a more scientific understanding to CC being non-binary. Marley talks about being the mother of three wonderful children—all whom have stepped away from the church—and what they are doing in their family to stay close together and love each other. Marley talks about how we can improve church culture—including being open to new perspectives so that more feel loved, welcomed, and needed. I learned so much from Marley. If you are open to learning more to support queer Latter-day Saints and improve church culture, I encourage you to listen to Marley’s podcast and share it with others. Thank you, Marley, for being on the podcast! And thank you CC for the great person you are and allowing your story to be shared. Links: E-mail: [email protected]. Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/marley.orton Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marley.orton/

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love hosted by Richard Osler.

0:09.6

My guest on today's podcast, I'm joining me from her home in Utah County is my friend Marley

0:16.5

Orton. Welcome to the podcast, Marley.

0:19.4

Thank you, Richard. I appreciate this opportunity.

0:22.6

Let me tell you a little bit about Marley. I got an email from Marley two weeks ago and said, I'm the mother of an adult, non-bionary child who has transitioned to their level of comfort. I'm writing you to ask if I could be a guest on your podcast.

0:40.4

Recently, I've had what I believe are promptings from the Lord

0:43.7

to find better ways to share my story.

0:46.3

To educate others on the complexities of gender, biological, and otherwise,

0:51.8

being on a podcast is way out of my comfort zone. But I truly believe

0:56.4

that education in the area is essential, especially now that we are overturning so many of the

1:02.4

policies. I think that repert occurs to what government is doing, and perhaps the new church policy.

1:09.8

It's been a very difficult week, especially for my child.

1:13.7

There needs to be more understanding compassion for our trans and non-myrani brothers and sisters.

1:19.1

I've heard you talk about the parable of the Good Samaritan

1:21.9

and how you've come to see our trans and non-marry brothers and sisters in this parable.

1:29.0

The first time I heard you expressed this, I became so emotional. I think you're on the money. Just like the Samaritans in

1:35.0

those days were some of the most despise people. The trans and non-marry community is

1:41.0

someone the most despised of our day. So listeners, that's how often a podcast starts,

1:46.5

as someone just gets an impression,

1:48.1

and my email address is in the podcast description,

1:51.5

wherever you listen, and Marley just emailed me,

1:54.4

and I'm so grateful that Marley's going to be on the podcast

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