Episode 824: Leon Crandell, Married Father of 8, Gay Latter-day Saint

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 20 April 2025

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

My friend Leon Crandell (lives in Snowflake AZ, cosmetologist, Brazil RM) joins us to bravely share his story: Survivor of sexual abuse Turning to substance abuse to deal with/escape the shame of sexual abuse Later abused by a doctor on his mission—and the shame of wondering why me Concluding being a victim of sexual abuse isn’t why he is gay Getting married (married for 27 years) and not really addressing his sexual orientation Gradually opening up to his wife—and their road to stay in their marriage and the Church Finding community of others walking this road Asking Heavenly Father “What do you think of me”? Super helpful Powerful (and healing) experience in a conversation with Jesus Kurt Francom’s impactful book “Is God Disappointed in Me” Hope instead of shame/fear This is a super powerful, vulnerable, and insightful podcast to help listeners see the role of Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ to help us find more hope/peace in our lives—and how our unique differences help us reach others—helping to create Zion. You are super brave Leon. Your courage to be honest gives hope to others. You are a good man! Honored to have you on the podcast. Links: Leon’s podcast: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/coming-untwo-christ/id1752406845 Leon’s webpage: cominguntwochrist.com/ Leon on Facebook: www.facebook.com/leon.crandell Leon on Instagram: @cominguntwochrist Kurt Francom’s book: www.amazon.com/dp/B0CT67RS86 Dr Robinson: www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9jO9iMbm5U

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0:00.0	Hello, welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love hosted by Richard Osler.
0:09.0	My guest on today's podcast, joining me from his home in Snowflake, Arizona, is my friend Leon
0:17.0	Crandall. Welcome to the podcast, Leon.
0:20.0	Hi, Richard. Glad to have you here. And you listeners know that I kind of
0:25.4	introduced my guests. As I mentioned, Leon is from Snowflake, Arizona. And let me just read you a message.
0:31.5	We've been trading messages for five years. I went back and reread all of our messages.
0:36.0	But this one I'd like to share with our listeners.
0:40.2	I am out on my morning run this morning, and the past little while I've had these impressions
0:45.5	to reach out to see if I could be a guest on your podcast.
0:49.0	I'm a Latter-day Saint and Gay.
0:51.3	I am married, and there are a few things in my story that are a lot like others,
0:55.7	but I also feel drawn to stay in the church, stay married, keep my family together,
1:00.6	and strive to help bring understanding and acceptance and love for everyone who is in the church
1:06.3	and hoping to give space so that other people, other people whose experiences that I have experienced,
1:13.2	there's a place for them.
1:15.0	So that was pretty brave message for Leon to share with me.
1:19.8	And I'm honored people open up.
1:21.5	And so here we are on this podcast.
1:26.9	A little more about Leon.
1:28.3	He's a cosmologist.
1:29.7	He's been in that profession for 30 years.
1:33.6	I admire the cosmologists that I know, if I'm saying that word, right.
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