Hi, I'm Jonathan Lehman.

And I'm Mark Devere.

And welcome to this episode of Nine Marks Pastors Talk.

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Welcome back, Jonathan.

Thank you. It's good to be

back here with you. Mm-hmm. Uh, you've been traveling. I missed you. But I understand that you

had a lot of good conversations without me. A great conversation with Mark Vergaup on Lament. That was

excellent. Uh, we posted your conversation with Ian Murray from years ago. I was

seeing Ian and Gene in their home. It was so good to see them. And that was a great conversation

that you had years ago with him that we put up last week. But today we have another special guest,

Isaac Adams. Heyo.

Hey, oh, Isaac.

Thank you for being with us.

It's good.

I've got to warn the people listening.

Isaac and Jonathan are very good friends.

So there might be some... You might drop the very, but there might be some like that.

There might be some inside back and forth.

Sorry about that, guys.

Isaac's an associate pastor here at Capitol Baptist Church.

I'm not.

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