Welcome back to the Charter podcast, brought to you by St. Xavier University.

I'm Ruthie Polinsky, back with the gang reunited, and it feels so good.

Alex Shapiro, Clay Harbor, did a phenomenal job covering the Senior Bowl.

Let's start there, guys.

Just real quick from both of you, I want to hear what was your favorite part of the week.

I mean, my favorite part is the guys who you didn't even know their names who pop and you're like,

David Walker, Central Arkansas, this guy's making plays.

Carson Vincent, Alabama, A&M, Clay Webb.

I mean, I could go on and on and on and on.

It's the guys who you have no idea who they are who make an impression, and that's really cool.

I'm a little bit biased because I was a small school guy,

and I went to the East West Shrine, not the Senior Bowl,

but I love the small school guys that come out there,

and nobody's really expecting much of them.

Obviously, Gray's Abel,

the North Dakota State product is a guy that's probably got more pub than anybody.

And just watching those guys play themselves into an opportunity to live their dream coming from a small school.

And you don't see it a lot these days because the way college football is set up with all the NIL stuff.

And these guys can transfer here and there after having some success.

But small school guys, undersized guys, the lesser known guys, coming in and showing they can play with the big boys, the guy that has LSU or Florida in their helmet.

There was plenty of those.

Go back and watch or listen to the last couple of podcasts.

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