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Hello, this is the Red Box podcast. I'm Matt Surely. We've all got through to Friday,

we've not got a new Prime Minister or anything, so that's great. Well done, everybody.

Coming up on today's episode, the latest Times Radio focus group,

former number 10 pollster James Johnson from Jail Partners. He was in the chair, a panel of

swing voters giving their verdict on Richie Soonach and Keir Starmer, a little bit of Matt Hancock too.

They're not very happy about him going to the jungle, I have to be saying. That's coming up in

just a moment, but like the columnists as well, but as we always do on Friday, let's take a look

at what we learned this week. We learned that Richie Soonach is still standing by his suella.

We learned that everyone now thinks that they could do a Liz Truss in question. This was suella

braverman. It's wrong, wrong, wrong. Yeah, it's not quite as good as the original.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. The son's how he cold, who's written a book on Liz Truss, also did his best

while we bravina. I think Michael goes on the record in the book saying that, well, maybe it's

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