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Hello, this is the Red Box podcast. I'm Matt Chawley. Coming up on today's episode,

what do you do about Nicolas Sturgeon? Oh, I should like to add an L-Jelly to the world. I spoke to

Douglas Ross, the Scottish Conservative leader, to ask him how he prepares for First Minister's questions,

as he got any hope of ever becoming Scottish First Minister, and what would he do if one of his

front benches sent the text messages that Gavin Williams did? So that's coming up in just a moment.

Before that, as ever, we kick off with our columnist panel and it's Mondays, so it must be

the columnists with Libby Rachy, Libby Purvis and Rachel Silvester on Times Radio.

Yes, it's a Monday, so it must be Libby Rachy. Morning, Libby Purvis. Morning. Morning,

Morning, Rachel Silvester. Morning, Matt. Let's talk about your column today, because it's about

immigration. Obviously, it's been a big talking point at the last week, but it's a sort of

broader point that you make about the so-called melting pot. And actually, you're having a mixture

of people, probably quite good. I particularly enjoyed the very euphemism for essentially

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