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Useful Idiots with Katie Halper and Aaron Maté

Former Israel negotiator Daniel Levy: THIS is Israel's real goal

Useful Idiots with Katie Halper and Aaron Maté

Useful Idiots, LLC

News Commentary, Politics, News

4.64.5K Ratings

🗓️ 14 June 2024

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Click here for the full interview with Daniel Levy: https://www.usefulidiotspodcast.com/p/former-israel-negotiator-daniel-levy?r=je5va&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web For $6 a month, become a Useful Idiot! Get extended interviews, Thursday Throwdowns, and bonus content at www.usefulidiotspodcast.com Watch this week's Thursday Throwdown: Brian Stelter warns Trump will arrest Rachel Maddow https://www.usefulidiotspodcast.com/p/brian-stelter-warns-trump-will-arrest?r=je5va&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web President of the US/Middle East Project Daniel Levy used to be an Israeli peace negotiator. Today, he’s a leading critic of the Israeli government. This former insider talks to us about the real goals behind Israel's assault on Gaza, why the U.S. is so enabling of Israel, and the political impact this will have on Biden. He describes Israel's depressingly narrow political spectrum: “from apartheidists with a smiley face, through to ‘reoccupy Gaza permanently,’ through to the expulsionist eradicationist camp.” It’s a bleak but increasingly undeniable reality that what was once considered the left in Israel and the US has now become ‘the right but nicer about it.’ And what is Netanyahu's plan? “Right now I'm not sure that Netanyahu has a plan of what his morning-after looks like. To the extent to which there is an ongoing Israeli position, it’s ‘entrench the control,’ it's ‘maximum land,’ and it's this matrix of domination which is going to prevent any Palestinian freedom rights. The idea is push them out and resettle Gaza now.” Daniel also blasts the so-called peace process: “What they’re essentially saying,” Daniel explains, “is ‘let's go back to the status quo ante,’ which is a regime accurately described by Palestinians, Israeli human rights NGOs, Amnesty, Human Rights Watch, and the International Court of Justice as meaning the bar of a legal definition of apartheid.” Subscribe to hear the full interview with Daniel Levy where he explains what the US gets out of its enabling of Israel, Hamas’s new goals, and how he went from Israeli government official to leading critic. 00:00 Intro 04:36 The Four Food Groups of News 29:12 Daniel Levy interview 29:37 What's going on with the ceasefire? 34:35 Netanyahu's real goal 38:04 Israel's real goal 42:36 A refuge of scoundrels 46:34 How does peace happen? 52:42 Will Palestinians have rights? 57:31 Why is the US fueling this? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and

0:05.0

welcome to useful idiots I'm Katie helper.

0:08.0

I'm Mary Mattte. Hey everybody, thank you so much for joining us.

0:11.0

There's so much content out there and yet you're choosing us. We're very grateful and we're

0:16.3

especially grateful to everybody who supports us at useful idiots podcast.com you keep

0:20.8

this show going and for doing so you get all kinds of bonus content including the extended

0:26.0

interviews we do every week and also the Thursday throwdown your midweek dose of

0:30.7

media madness.

0:31.7

Really encourage people to do that and Aaron you've been

0:34.1

changing backgrounds a lot. Are you on the road? I am on the road I am on the road and I have a

0:40.8

story I want to tell you know you know some people when they have like

0:44.3

sizable Twitter followings they'll try to exploit that with like by like asking

0:49.3

an airline to be upgraded to like for it to like business class or whatever or they complain about how they were treated

0:54.7

you know in the hopes of probably getting like an like an upgrade for a future flight I don't do

0:59.3

that I don't do that but I will use this podcast Katie if you don't mind as my sounding board for travel complaints if you don't mind

1:07.2

No and I don't think this will get me any upgrades on any airline this has to do with the Marseille Airport in France where I just was, okay?

1:15.4

So I'm in the mail bathroom and you know the mail bathroom you have two choices. You have the

1:19.1

urinal and you have the stall with the door, and I just had to go number one but the thing is all the

1:26.4

urinals were occupied so I went into the stall and because I'm just going number one I don't feel

1:31.6

they need to close the door right like you know I'm just in and out I'm just going number one, I don't feel the need to close the door, right?

1:33.2

Like, you know, I'm just in and out. I'm just in and out. Okay.

1:36.0

But I go on the stall. I, you know, I do exactly what I would do at the urinal. I do it number one.

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