Hey, it's Michael.

I'm here to let you know that this weekend,

we're bringing you something a little bit different

from our colleagues here at the Times.

It's a conversation with Alex Cooper, if you don't know.

She is the host of the hit podcast Call Her Daddy.

Recently, our friends over at the Deal Book Summit

held a series of conversations

between our colleague Andrew Ross Sorkin and a huge,

varied, and prominent group of people. They do this every year, but this year's guests

included former president Bill Clinton, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, the chair of the Federal

Reserve, Jerome Powell, and the tennis legend Serena Williams.

It was a fascinating lineup. All the conversations were important, but here at the daily,

we were especially struck by Alex Cooper and her insights into media, culture, and how power

really works in 2024. If you don't know a lot about Alex Cooper, here's a couple of

key facts. A couple of years ago, she landed a deal for her podcast worth $125 million,

and Time magazine has called her, quote, arguably the most successful woman in podcasting.

Rolling Stone, meanwhile, has dubbed her Gen Z's Barbara Walters, and right before the election,

she quite memorably interviewed Vice President Kamala Harris on her podcast.

Cooper sat down with Andrew Westorkin to talk about her unlikely rise from hosting a pretty raunchy dating show to becoming what she is now, one of the biggest and most important voices in all of podcasting.

So if you want to listen to any of the other dealbook conversations I just mentioned, you can listen on our NYT audio app, or you can search for a dealbook

summit wherever you listen.

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