A note to our listeners. There is a brief mention of suicide in this episode.

It's episode 156 of our show, and there are some things I've done a lot of times, and we'll continue to do some more.

I'm just going to keep doing them. One of them is to say it's depression mode. I'm John Moe. I'm glad you're here.

Here are some other things I've done before over the last 155 episodes, plus another 70 or so of the old show, that I'm going to keep doing. I'm going

to keep telling you that examining your childhood, examining how you got built, is crucially

important. It's not about living in the past, it's about knowing how your present and future

work. I'm going to continue to advocate for writing that stuff down.

Even if you have no intention of publishing it or even showing it to other people,

selecting memories that stand out, forming them into narratives,

is a great way to understand what the hell happened back there.

I'm going to keep on encouraging you to find what's funny about the humanity we all share. And so I'm definitely going to keep

booking Gary Gullman, who I've interviewed a bunch of times already, but we'll keep interviewing

some more, including here in this episode. Gary is a comedian. His latest

special is on HBO, and it's called Born on Third Base. I said to my dad, I really want to play

hockey. He said, if you really want to play hockey, I'll try to find the money for you to play

this sport, you've shown no potential. Not only have you shown no potential on hockey, but Jews...

...have acquitted themselves with very little distinction, to be honest with you,

Gary.

Son, go grab the sports almanac.

We're going to look at the Hockey Hall of Fame.

We will count the Jewish players in the Hockey Hall of Fame.

And we open up the book, he said, okay, ready, done.

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