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This Week in Startups

Gas Stations in Space and Carried Interest on the Chopping Block | E2082

This Week in Startups

Jason Calacanis

Technology

4.41.3K Ratings

🗓️ 8 February 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Today’s show: Jason and Alex discuss the carried interest tax loophole being in Trump’s crosshairs, a great interview with Orbit Fab and their plans for the industrialization of space, Deel’s $300M secondary and much more!


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(0:00) Episode Teaser(1:30) Introduction and welcome(2:40) AI startups reaching revenue milestones(9:00) Impact of carried interest tax changes

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(11:25) Would ending the carried interest tax loophole hurt startup investing?

(19:17) Atlassian. Head tohttps://www.atlassian.com/software/startups to see if you qualify for 50 free seats for 12 months.(21:18) Introduction of OrbitFab's CEO, Daniel Faber(22:24) OrbitFab's market position, fuel standards, and customer adoption(27:14) Financial and logistical aspects of satellite refueling

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0:00.0

If they put a $150 million check in, Mubadala and General Catalyst each, let's say they split it.

0:06.3

Sure.

0:07.1

That would be a very big check size.

0:09.3

You can't put that into Series A.

0:11.0

That's 10 Series A's, you know, or 20 Series A's.

0:13.9

That's 50 seed rounds.

0:15.7

Well, you might be able to put into an AI Series A, but any other normal non-AI foundation model company series A is going to be

0:22.0

much, much smaller than that.

0:23.8

Well, valuation is a couple's aside.

0:25.9

By the way, just I'll end on this.

0:27.0

It's a really good sign that secondary is happening because secondary doesn't happen if the valuation

0:33.3

doesn't make sense and there's a clear path to the next milestones. So congratulations

0:38.6

to the deal team and to the early investors who get some liquidity.

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