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Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness

GETTING CURIOUS | Who Built The Panama Canal? (ICYMI) with Professor Kaysha Corinealdi

Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness

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Science, Self-improvement, Comedy, Education, Society & Culture

4.921.5K Ratings

🗓️ 6 July 2022

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

July Fourth got us thinking: what does “independence” look like for American-controlled territories? To explore that question, we’re re-running an episode from the archives with Professor Kaysha Corinealdi, where she and Jonathan discuss the political history and legacy of the US-controlled Panama Canal Zone. And all week on our @CuriouswithJVN social media pages, we’ll be highlighting episodes from our archives that interrogate the idea of “freedom” in the US and abroad. Kaysha Corinealdi is an interdisciplinary historian of modern empires, migration, gender, and activism in the Americas. Her forthcoming book Panama in Black, available for preorder now, centers the activism of Afro-Caribbean migrants and their descendants as they navigated practices and policies of anti-Blackness, xenophobia, denationalization, and white supremacy in Panama and the United States. Her research can also be found in Black Perspectives (September 14, 2021), Caribbean Review of Gender Studies (Issue 12, 2018), the International Journal of Africana Studies (18:2, Fall-Winter 2017), and the Global South (6:2, Fall 2013). You can follow Professor Corinealdi on Twitter @KCorinealdi, and read more of her work here and on her website. Join the conversation, and find out what former guests are up to, by following us on Instagram and Twitter @CuriousWithJVN. Jonathan is on Instagram and Twitter @JVN and @Jonathan.Vanness on Facebook. Transcripts for each episode are available at JonathanVanNess.com. Love listening to Getting Curious? You can also watch Getting Curious—on Netflix! Head to netflix.com/gettingcurious to dive in. Our executive producer is Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Zahra Crim. Our editor is Andrew Carson. Our socials are run and curated by Middle Seat Digital. Our theme music is “Freak” by QUIÑ; for more, head to TheQuinCat.com. Getting Curious merch is available on PodSwag.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome back to Getting Curious. I'm Jonathan Van Ness. And for the last, let's see, 45 weeks, but who's counting?

0:07.6

I've sat down for gorgeous conversations with brilliant experts to learn all about topics that make me curious.

0:14.8

This week we're turning the spotlight back on one of those episodes from December 2021 with

0:20.7

Professor Kaysha Corinialdi all about the U.S. controlled Panama Canal Zone.

0:27.0

As we celebrate summer holidays Independence Day, 4th of July, or whatever you call it,

0:32.0

it's important for us to remember.

0:34.0

Independence has not meant the same things for everybody.

0:37.0

So without further ado, here's our conversation

0:40.0

with Professor Kaysha Corinaldi, where I ask her, what's the story of the Panama Canal?

0:45.8

Welcome to getting curious, this is Jonathan Vanes.

0:49.6

I'm so excited for this week's episode,

0:51.6

I'm so excited for this week's guest. I'm so excited for this week's guests.

0:53.2

So without any further ado, welcome to the show Kaysha Coriniali, who is an assistant professor at Emerson College

1:00.8

and an interdisciplinary historian of modern empires, migration, gender, and activism in the Americas.

1:08.0

And before we dive in, I realized that I live really close to a dam, then I was like what is going on with dams

1:14.4

like what's going on with like water stuff so we just had our first kind of

1:20.2

learning experience with like dams and kind of like like the economic, the environmental,

1:25.0

the displacement, all of the different factors

1:28.2

that kind of go into what we know as dams.

1:30.2

And then I was like,

1:35.0

what about the Panama Canal?

1:37.8

And so here we are. Welcome, how are you?

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