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🗓️ 24 March 2025
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0:00.0 | Hello, hello, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Fluently Forward. Today, we are talking yet again about Haley Bieber, Selena Gomez, and these copycat cosplay stalking allegations that have been hitting the internet for, I don't know, like the seventh time ever since this whole fiasco started. I'm a messy bitch. I love it every time this |
0:22.7 | resurfaces. I don't know if it's because I'm a millennial, so I grew up thinking that love |
0:27.5 | triangles, whether it be with Brad, Jen Aniston, Angelina Jolie, or Twilight with, you know, the |
0:35.6 | freaking werewolf and the vampire and the girl. |
0:38.4 | I just always am entranced by them, and I'm also so in trance. |
0:42.5 | We did a whole episode on this, like on Patreon, maybe like a year ago, about the notion of |
0:47.2 | female obsession. |
0:48.6 | And I think that's one of the reasons why I love Olivia Rodrigo. |
0:51.2 | She sings about it so well. |
0:53.0 | But what we're talking about today is Haley and |
0:55.2 | Selena. There's this new seven-part series that basically was a YouTube video and then cut up into |
1:01.4 | seven different parts on TikTok. And now it's not like people are talking about it like it's a |
1:06.1 | documentary. I think it's maybe like nine minutes from start to finish. And the seven-part series goes over all of these different copycat allegations, |
1:14.9 | and it spins this narrative that Haley Bieber, |
1:18.0 | Haley Baldwin, was obsessed with Justin Bieber when she was a young girl, who wasn't. |
1:22.2 | But she was also obsessed with Justin and Selena, them dating, as well as them separately. |
1:28.6 | And that when she crafted this plan and kind of cozied her way up to Justin throughout the years and tried to push Selena out of the picture, even though she's been married to Justin Bieber for years and they now have a child together, I think like a young son, she is still finding ways to copy Selena Gomez because she |
1:46.2 | wants to wear her skin. And that's basically the vibe of this video out on TikTok. So today we're |
1:51.2 | going to break down all of those allegations, look at the timeline of things, and then also look at |
1:55.9 | things from different angles, because something I was curious about is, has Selena ever copied Haley? She has. |
2:02.7 | I'm also curious, why do we love the notion of one woman copying another? We're also seeing |
2:08.6 | kind of a similar rhetoric with Kylie Jenner dating Timothy Shalome. And a lot of people |
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