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Choiceology with Katy Milkman

Happiness: With Guests Scott Harrison & Mike Norton

Choiceology with Katy Milkman

Charles Schwab

Behavioral Economics, Society & Culture, Social Sciences, Decision Making, Charles Schwab, Business, Science, Investing, Dan Heath, Katy Milkman

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 10 December 2018

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Choiceology with Katy Milkman, we examine an old insight about happiness and giving. It’s an insight that is now backed up by behavioral science. The episode begins with a scene from the Charles Dickens classic A Christmas Carol. From there we hear from the founder and CEO of Charity: Water, Scott Harrison. When Scott turned 18, he moved to New York City and got a job as a nightclub promoter. He lived a hedonistic lifestyle that included private jets and exotic parties. He should have been on top of the world, but he was miserable. It wasn’t until Scott moved to one of the poorest countries in the world that he started to find fulfillment. You can learn more about Scott’s story and his incredible transformation in his new book Thirst. Next Harvard Business School professor Michael Norton explores the topic of happiness and spending. He’s the co-author of a study on the subject of happiness and spending, and the book Happy Money: The New Science of Smarter Spending. Finally, we hit the streets to conduct an experiment. We gave out five dollar bills to random people and asked them to spend it on themselves or give it away. Which group do you think will experience a greater level of happiness?

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0:00.0

Cretch it, you're late, sir. Cratch it

0:12.6

it you're late sir what do you mean coming in at this time a day I'm very sorry sir

0:18.9

sir I am behind my time sir or indeed step indeed. Step this way Mr. Cratchit please.

0:25.0

It's only once a year sir. It won't be repeated. I was making rather merry yesterday sir I'm sure you were well we won't beat about the

0:36.7

bush my friend I'm not going to stand this sort of thing any longer

0:40.9

it leaves me no alternative but to raise your salary. Oh, I haven't taken leave of my senses, Bob. I've come to them. From now on, I want to try to help you raise that family of yours, if you'll let me.

1:05.0

We'll talk it over later, Bob, over a bowl of hot punch.

1:09.0

I love that classic scene from Charles Dickens a Christmas carol.

1:17.0

Shortly after the character of Ebenezer Scrooge has transformed from a miserly grouch

1:22.0

to a happy, kind, and generous man.

1:25.0

Sure, it took three ghosts and a terrifying glimpse of his own death to change his outlook,

1:30.0

but there's something about this old story that still rings true.

1:34.4

In fact, the insights on happiness that Charles Dickens explored in a Christmas carol

1:39.0

are being confirmed by the latest research and behavioral science.

1:43.0

And that's what we're looking at today.

1:47.0

I'm Katie Milkman, and this is Choiceology, an original podcast from Charles Schwab.

1:55.0

It's a show about decisions, everyday choices and life-altering ones,

2:00.0

along with the psychological forces that influence them.

2:03.0

We highlight some of the suboptimal behaviors we humans exhibit

2:07.0

when we're trying to make good choices,

2:09.0

and we explore stories of make or break moments that hinge on a key decision. We do it all to help

2:15.1

you avoid costly mistakes. This time of year is often when calendars start to fill up with office parties and family gatherings.

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