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🗓️ 27 February 2025
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0:00.0 | From New York Times, I'm Michael Bobarrow. This is the Daily. |
0:10.4 | During his decades-long path to becoming America's highest-ranking military officer, |
0:16.8 | General Charles Q. Brown won the crucial support of President Trump. |
0:23.1 | Until that was, Brown publicly talked about the one subject that is now taboo in Trump's government. |
0:32.1 | Today, Pentagon correspondent Helene Cooper on what got Brown fired and why it has so thoroughly rocked the military. |
0:45.0 | It's Thursday, February 27. |
0:50.9 | Well, Holian, thank you for coming into the studio, and thank you for making time for us. |
0:55.4 | Nice to be here, Michael. |
0:57.5 | Helene, can you tell us about what is being described as the Friday night massacre inside the Pentagon that unfolded a few days ago? |
1:07.6 | And why, even in the context of President Trump firing so many people across so |
1:14.6 | many federal agencies, this felt different and important and worth singling out, which is, of course, |
1:22.7 | what we're doing here in our conversation with you today. Well, on Friday night, President |
1:27.0 | Trump fired three very |
1:29.7 | senior Pentagon officials. One of those people is the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, |
1:36.4 | General Charles Q. Brown, known everywhere as C.Q. Brown, who is the highest ranking military |
1:43.3 | official in the country. |
1:45.6 | This was known as the Friday Night Massacre at the Pentagon |
1:49.8 | because it was so stunning for the simple reason that the American military is supposed to be apolitical. |
1:57.7 | Like the FBI, the military is supposed to stay in place, regardless of who the |
2:04.0 | president is. Some of the greatest generals in history made a point of the fact that they didn't |
2:10.4 | vote, like George Marshall. Even at one point, Ulysses S. Grant, back when he was a general |
2:16.5 | fighting the Civil War, didn't vote in 1864 for |
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