Hey friends and welcome to the Happy Hour with Jamie Ivy Podcasts.

I'm your host Jamie and I'm so glad you're here.

Each week on this show, I invite a friend to join me and we chat about the big things in life,

the little things in life and everything in between.

Hey friends, happy Wednesday.

We have a great show today.

In fact, it's kind of a two-part show, a little bit.

A couple of months ago, I went out to San Quentin, which is the prison in San Francisco, California.

And I got the opportunity to go with Bob Gough and my friend Tiffany Daniels.

And we got to go in and see the work that Bob is doing in there.

I was able to meet a bunch of men who are incarcerated and serving their sentences for their crime.

And I also met a man named Brandon Terrell, who was on the outside with us.

And I tell the story in the podcast, so I'll let you hear it all from them.

But I knew I wanted to have him on the Happy Hour.

And so today, I'm sitting down and having a conversation with Brandon, who served a sentence in San Quentin.

He served a sentence for his crime.

He talks about it in the show today.

And you guys, this is an interview that has stuck with me since I had it for a lot of reasons.

There are some things in here that Brandon says that I hope you also never forget.

I hope it changes the way that we view people.

I hope it changes the way we view the grace of God.

I hope it changes the way that we see incarcerated men.

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