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Hi, everyone. I'm Nikolai Tangen, the CEO of the Norwegian Soan Wealth Fund.

And today I'm thrilled to welcome Dan Pink, who has written seven New York Times bestsellers.

He's done groundbreaking work on the power of regret, work, creativity, behaviors, and so on. And so today we'll

talk mainly about regret, drive, and timing, like when. So welcome, Dan. Thank you, thank you. Great to

be here. So your latest book, The Power of Regret, explores that we should kind of learn from our regrets.

Now, my philosophy has always been to kind of try to

learn from it and move on, but you think a bit differently. No, I think that's, I think we're actually,

we're actually fairly close. What I'm really pushing back against is the idea, especially here

in America, where people say, I don't have any regrets. Everything happens for a reason,

that the path to a life well lived is to be positive all the time, never be negative, to always look forward, never look back.

And that is profoundly bad advice.

Okay, you mentioned that there are several types of regrets. I think you divide them into four, and one is the foundation regret, right?

The fact that you didn't work harder. Yeah.

Well, you work hard.

You did a law degree at Yale, so you must have very hard.

So just to give some context to this, what I did is I did a, I gathered regrets from people all over the world.

I put an online survey, a qualitative piece of research. And we now have a database

of regrets from about 26,000 people in 134 countries. So it's pretty remarkable. And around

the world, it seemed people had the same four core regrets. One of them was this regret that I call

a foundation regret, which is, actually, it's interesting, because I think there's a financial

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