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Pitchfork Economics with Nick Hanauer

Homelessness is a Housing Problem (with Gregg Colburn)

Pitchfork Economics with Nick Hanauer

Civic Ventures

Business, Government, News, Politics

4.8 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 3 December 2024

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

This week, Gregg Colburn, co-author of "Homelessness is a Housing Problem," joins Nick and Goldy to dissect the complex factors fueling America’s homelessness crisis. Colburn presents compelling evidence that challenges common misconceptions around homelessness, revealing that it stems primarily from the rising costs of housing rather than issues like addiction or mental illness. He explains that evidence shows comprehensive strategies—combining affordable housing, rental assistance, and supportive services—can meaningfully reduce numbers in the unhoused population. While acknowledging the long-term nature of the challenge, Colburn reframes housing as essential infrastructure, calls for big investments in building more housing units, and offers a compelling, data-driven case for rethinking America’s approach to homelessness and housing affordability. Gregg Colburn is an associate professor of real estate at the University of Washington’s College of Built Environments. He publishes research on topics related to housing and homelessness and is co-author of the book Homelessness is a Housing Problem: How Structural Factors Explain U.S. Patterns. Professor Colburn is co-chair of the University of Washington’s Homelessness Research Initiative and is a member of the National Alliance to End Homelessness Research Council. Further reading:  Homelessness is a Housing Problem: How Structural Factors Explain U.S. Patterns  Website: http://pitchforkeconomics.com Instagram: @pitchforkeconomics Threads: pitchforkeconomics Bluesky: @pitchforkeconomics.bsky.social Twitter: @PitchforkEcon, @NickHanauer, @civicaction YouTube: @pitchforkeconomics LinkedIn: Pitchfork Economics Substack: The Pitch

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0:00.0

The rising inequality and growing political instability that we see today are the direct result of decades of bad economic theory.

0:10.3

It's time to build our economy from the bottom up and from the middle out, not the top down.

0:15.8

Middle out economics is the answer. Because Wall Street didn't build this country. Great middle class built this country.

0:22.6

The more the middle class thrives, the better the economy is for everyone, even rich people like me.

0:34.4

This is Pitchfork Economics with Nick Hanauer, a podcast about how to build the economy from the middle out.

0:42.5

Welcome to the show.

0:49.5

Today, Nick, we are having our second conversation in a series on housing, the affordable

0:58.1

housing crisis in America, how to fix it.

1:02.4

And today we're looking at homelessness in a way that will surprise a lot of people

1:10.1

as to what the cause of homelessness is.

1:13.3

I don't know.

1:14.1

Spoiler alert.

1:15.2

It's the title of the book we're talking about today.

1:18.6

Homelessness is a housing problem.

1:21.0

Yeah.

1:21.7

And today our guest is Greg Colburn, who's a professor at the University of Washington here,

1:29.5

who works on housing and homelessness and real estate and stuff like that.

1:32.7

It's his practice.

1:34.1

And he and his colleague, Clayton Aldern, wrote this fantastic book.

1:41.0

It's a couple of three years old that, you know, takes a very data-centric approach

1:46.0

to analyzing the causes of homelessness. And, you know, I know that every single listener

1:52.7

we have, Goldie, has had a conversation in their lives about homelessness and the causes

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