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Hey everyone, it's Adam Grant. Welcome back to Rethinking, my podcast on the Science

of What Makes Us Tech. I'm an organizational psychologist and I'm taking you inside the

minds of fascinating people to explore new thoughts and new ways of thinking.

My guests today are two of the brains behind some of my favorite films. Ed Katmull is

a computer animation pioneer. He co-founded Pixar and served as the longtime president

there as well as at Disney Animation. Ed is the author of Creativity Inc., which in my

opinion is the best book ever written about building teams that build great ideas and

cultures that enrich them. An expanded edition of Creativity Inc. just came out and it's

filled with new stories and insights. Pete Doctor is the Chief Creative Officer at Pixar,

an accomplished director, producer, screenwriter, animator, and voice actor. The first film

he both wrote and directed was Monsters Inc. and he went on to become the first person

ever to win three Oscars for Best Animated Feature, for Up, Inside Out, and Soul. I've

learned a lot from Pixar over the years and Ed and Pete worked together for decades,

so I couldn't wait to talk with them about making creative magic in teams where people

have strong opinions. And of course about working with Steve Jobs.

Adam, have you and Ed met before? We have. We met several times. Okay. And Ed lived to tell the tale.

Yes, still around. And he's willing to talk to you again, which I take as a good

sign. I mean, we'll see. We'll see what happens today. I've had a few conversations before,

so I'll do my best. I feel like we need to set the scene a little bit.

Ed, you co-founded Pixar. You ran it for many years. How did this come to be?

Ed Gronkowski For me, it's a journey that took more than 50 years.

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