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Worklife with Adam Grant

When an introvert and an extrovert fall in love with Chip and Joanna Gaines

Worklife with Adam Grant

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Management, Worklife Podcast, Worklife With Adam Grant, Work Life Balance, Ted Talks, Podcast About Work Life, Ted Adam Grant, Adam Grant Podcasts, Ted Podcasts, Adam Grant, Organizational Psychologist, Business

4.89.4K Ratings

🗓️ 1 August 2023

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Chip and Joanna Gaines are best known for their hit reality TV home renovation show “Fixer Upper.” The married couple has delighted audiences by finding charm in unexpected places, and now Chip and Joanna are building their own empire extending from furniture and homewares to a Gaines TV channel. But their greatest achievement has been building a thriving partnership at work and home despite dramatic differences between their personalities. Chip and Joanna talk with Adam about how introverts and extraverts collaborate, the challenges and rewards of doing business together, and the lessons they’ve gleaned from their entrepreneurial journey. Transcripts for ReThinking are available at go.ted.com/RWAGscripts

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0:00.0

Ted Audio Collective

0:08.6

Hey everyone, it's Adam Grant. Welcome back to Rethinking, my podcast on the science of what makes us tick.

0:14.4

I'm an organizational psychologist, and I'm taking you inside the minds of fascinating people

0:19.0

to explore new thoughts and new ways of thinking.

0:26.0

I guess today are Chip and Joanna Gaines, the couple best known for their show Fixer Upper,

0:31.0

where they renovated homes, chip handling the real estate and Joanna leading the design.

0:36.0

They're the co-founders and co-owners of Magnolia, where they operate a home goods store, a TV network, a bakery,

0:42.0

and a number of other businesses that have brought tourism to Waco, Texas.

0:46.0

They're also New York Times bestselling authors, and if you've watched their show,

0:50.0

you know Chip is an extreme extrovert, and Joanna is an extreme introvert.

0:54.0

Ever since I met them a few years ago, I've been curious about how they navigate the differences in their personalities.

1:00.0

Not just at work, but also at home with their five kids.

1:07.0

Joanna, were you just telling Chip to Shush?

1:11.0

No, no, the Shush is me kicking him under the table.

1:15.0

Adam, I do. I always feel the need to defend myself in these moments.

1:19.0

If you only knew half the time she's kicking me not to be quiet, but like to cover us.

1:24.0

You know, it always looks like I'm this narcissist that just talks incessantly,

1:28.0

and poor Joe never gets a word in edge-wise.

1:30.0

But most of the time she's like, please talk and you want me to already stop talking?

1:34.0

Yes.

1:35.0

We haven't gotten anything.

1:36.0

When Adam welcomed us to the point, I guess it's sad.

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