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How R.F.K. Jr. and ‘Medical Freedom’ Rose to Power

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 January 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. faced a crucial nomination hearing on Wednesday where a panel of skeptical senators probed his past, often contentious remarks. Sheryl Gay Stolberg, who covers health policy for The Times, explains how someone who’s considered on the fringe in a lot of his beliefs came to be picked for health secretary to begin with. Guests: Sheryl Gay Stolberg, a correspondent based in Washington covering health policy for The New York Times.

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0:00.0

From the New York Times, I'm Sabrina Tavernisi, and this is the Daily.

0:11.0

Of all President Trump's cabinet picks, perhaps none is more familiar to more Americans than Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. In my advocacy, I've often disturbed the status quo by asking uncomfortable questions.

0:26.9

On Wednesday, he faced a crucial nomination hearing, where a panel of skeptical senators

0:32.6

probed his past, often controversial, remarks.

0:36.9

In a podcast in 2020, you said, and I quote,

0:40.5

you would do anything, pay anything,

0:44.2

to go back in time and not vaccinate your kids.

0:47.9

Do you think that people who take antidepressants are dangerous?

0:52.5

Did you say Lyme disease is a highly likely,

0:56.3

militarily engineered by a weapon?

0:58.6

I probably did say that.

1:00.6

Today, my colleague Cheryl Gay-Stolberg

1:03.9

on how Kennedy became the face of a movement

1:07.5

that has railed against the very system he could soon oversee.

1:18.6

It's Thursday, January 30th.

1:32.8

So, Cheryl, I'm so glad you're here today because you are the perfect person for this.

1:39.4

You cover both health and politics, which yesterday and today have come together in a very interesting way with this confirmation hearing of RFK Jr. If he gets confirmed, and that's a big if,

1:46.3

he would be leading this vast government agency that's responsible in many ways for the health

1:51.6

of Americans. It's called the Department of Health and Human Services. And I think the first

1:55.9

thing I really want to understand is how RFK Jr., who's someone who is widely understood to be pretty fringe in a lot of

2:03.8

his beliefs and really almost, you know, a conspiracy theorist, how he came to be up for that

2:10.1

nomination to begin with.

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