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You're listening to how to be a better human.

I'm your host, Chris Duffy.

I've always loved to read. My favorite books are the ones where you feel completely immersed in the world of the book,

both in the narrative and in the sentences.

Where you come away feeling a connection to the characters and to the author,

the ones full of moments and phrases that linger in your mind long after you're finished reading.

Those are the kinds of books that Kelly Corgan writes.

She's an incredible author, but she also hosts a podcast at television show,

and she does so many other things.

Kelly is an extraordinary person. But what I think is so special about her work is that she

highlights the everyday moments, the moments that we all experience in our lives.

Kelly has been described as the poetet Laureate of the Ordinary, and I think that is a perfect description.

Kelly and I recorded this episode together in person at TED 2024 in Vancouver.

Kelly was there because she was giving this beautiful talk about the courage and vulnerability

of family life and what it takes to love someone over the long haul.

Here's a clip from Kelly's talk. Say your kid was dropped from a group text.

They were in it, they mattered, they belonged, and then poof.

Or your husband blew the big deal at work,

or your mom won't wear the diapers that would really help her get through

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