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How to Be a Better Human

The art of paying attention (w/ Wendy MacNaughton and Laurel Braitman)

How to Be a Better Human

TED

Self-improvement, Education

4.21.3K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2024

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

If you found yourself doodling or writing a lot as a child but then lost the hobby as you grew up, Wendy MacNaughton and Laurel Braitman want to help you recapture your spark. Wendy MacNaughton is an illustrator, the author of “How to Say Goodbye”, and the creator of Draw Together, an art and learning community. Laurel Braitman is a TED Fellow, the author of the memoir “What Looks Like Bravery”, and the founder of Writing Medicine, a community of writing healthcare professionals. Together, Wendy and Laurel created Attention Club, a group of people pursuing creativity by practicing focus with one another. In this episode, Wendy and Laurel join Chris for an in-person chat at the 2024 TED Conference where they discuss the feelings that arise when sharing art with an audience and why embracing mistakes can lead to more meaningful work.

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Ted Audio Collective.

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Audio Collective.

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You're listening to

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You're listening to how to be a better human.

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I'm your host Chris Duffy.

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What you're about to hear is an episode that we recorded in person at the TED

0:18.7

2024 conference in Vancouver. Over the entire history of this podcast we've only ever recorded a very small

0:24.7

handful of episodes in person. Most episodes of this show we record remotely with me, the

0:30.5

guest and the production team all in separate quiet little places spread across the globe.

0:35.0

The great part of that is that we get to feature guests from all over the world.

0:40.0

But I have to say there is also something really special about being in the same room for a conversation.

0:45.0

And I think there's probably no episode that could have been more perfect to do in person than this one.

0:51.0

Because our guests, Laurel Bratman and Wendy McNaughton,

0:54.3

are artists and writers and people who take presents very seriously. They make noticing

1:00.5

and really being in a place and in a moment with other people into the heart of their

1:05.2

individual creative practices. And together they've started a very fun little

1:09.3

society of people who want to do the same to unlock their creativity. It's called Attention Club.

1:14.9

We're going to talk about Attention Club and about their individual work and about their work together in just a moment.

1:21.2

But first let's start with Wendy and Laurel talking about their

1:24.1

friendship and their love for each other. This first voice that you're about to

1:27.7

hear is Laurel. My favorite people, the people I am closest to in this life are the people that I feel like I laugh the

1:34.6

hardest with and also I can talk about tragedy and disappointment and shame and

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