Hey, and welcome to The Upgrade, podcast from the team at Lifeacker, where we help you improve your life one week at a time.

I'm Jordan Calhoun, editor-in-chief of Lifepacker.

And I'm Megan Walbert, Lifehackers Managing Editor. And this week, we're learning how to reframe our

thinking a bit. That's right. We are learning how and when to shift our thinking from a fixed

mindset perspective to a growth mindset perspective with health from expert Eduardo Reesneau.

But if we have done some examination of mindsets and how they affect us, it's kind of like a

vaccine. It immunizes us a little bit against those fixed mindset that we might see in movies

or from our teacher or from other people because we can see what's happening and the negative

things that can affect us so we can work against it.

And you've probably heard of Eduardo before. He's the most book keynote speaker on growth mindset.

And his TED Talks and his work with Carol Dweck has influenced millions and millions of people

to foster a culture of development and innovation and, you know, growth.

In addition to that, he's also the co-founder of Mindset Works, which is a pioneer in growth mindset

development services and programs, which he created alongside Carol Dweck and Lisa Blackwell.

Megan, where do you fall on the growth mindset spectrum? Are you more fixed or are you more

growth or do you toggle between the two? You know, I hadn't ever really

thought about it until we started kind of exploring this topic for the podcast. I think of it more

in terms of my son, I think, because I really do want him to cultivate that sort of growth

mindset perspective where he's not, you know, pigeonholing himself into a certain area or feeling

like he can't improve or try new things. And then when I look at myself, I think there are ways

that I'm growth-minded in terms of I'm someone who likes to do new things, try new things.

Like, I'm going to be one of those people when I have time who will, like,

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